__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
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Emperor Vitiate can't summon Force Storms, instantly corrupt Jedi with his mere presence or duel on anywhere near the level DE Sidious.
DE Luke can Tutaminis AT-AT blasts and destroy them with ease, absorbed in the dark side he is stated to be far stronger with the Dark Side than his father was, whom could also crush AT-ATs with TK well before his prime BTW.
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Within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame. This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker.
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Location: The balance of the Force
Perhaps I get a sick joy out of watching him destroy his own credibility, with gems such as claiming a generic Lord in the Sith Empire is easily Count Dooku and Darth Maul tier.
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Within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame. This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker.
He is stated to have explored the most sinister and uncharted depths of the dark side, he is likely to have knowledge of many powers. Possibility exists for knowledge of even this power.
In his relentless pursuit of immortality, the Emperor explored the most sinister, uncharted depths of the dark side.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
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The legendary Jedi Revan and Malak confront the Sith Emperor in his throne room on Dromund Kaas. In mere moments, the Jedi lay defeated and consumed by the dark side of the Force.
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Most Jedi who ventured into Imperial space vanished without a trace, but a few managed to send back disturbing messages to their Masters. These fragmented communiques showed the Emperor's Jedi pursuers descending into fear, madness, and evil when faced with his power. It quickly became clear the Sith Emperor was more then a brilliant military strategist and cunning political leader. He was a living embodiment of the dark side of the Force who delighted in destroying the minds and spirits of those Jedi who came too close to him.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)
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The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen. His corrupting influence is so complete that none can stand in his presence without succumbing to fear, anger and hatred. The Emperor can wither and ruin even the strongest Jedi's connection to the light side.
Jedi Master Tol Braga's strike team was not the first group to succumb to the Sith leader's oppressive influence. Hundreds of years ago, the Jedi Revan and Malak discovered Dromund Kaas and confronted the Emperor. They fell to the dark side and returned to Republic space as Sith Lords. Since then, dozens more Jedi have followed the same path into evil.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Codex Entry titled "The Emperor's Fallen Jedi (Knight).")
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Luke is absolutely vulnerable to Emperor's telepathic subjugation. And telepathic powers manifest instantly.
Emperor Vitiate doesn't needs to be a master swordsman to fell another. He have proven his mettle in many battles.
What a load of crap.
Luke deflected firepower of an AT-AT using his lightsaber. Also, we cannot know for sure whether pulling this vehicle down was easy for Luke or not from the comic images.
Also, where it is stated that Luke became far stronger with the dark side then his father was? Did Luke surpass Sidious by embracing the dark side? Their confrontation on Byss suggests otherwise.
Also, ability to destroy an AT-AT is somehow an indication that the relevant Force-user > Emperor Vitiate?
Emperor Vitiate's inferiors have history of destroying objects weighing hundreds of tons including gigantic trees, entire buildings, and large rocky formations. An AT-AT isn't much of a benchmark.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Apr 8th, 2015 at 12:02 PM
Registered: Aug 2014
Location: The balance of the Force
Hyperbole.
Counter-arguing with telepathy? Sidious doesn't need telepathy to turn Jedi into his thralls, his sheer presence corrupts Jedi and scares the living shit out of other extremely powerful Sith Lords.
AT-ATs made of ultra-grade durasteel > Trees and permacrete buildings. Vader with a gesture of his hand Force Crushed an AT-AT to the point it looked like a car in a junkyard.
Vader's apprentice tore an in-flight Star Destroyer out of orbit and literally forced it to crash. His clone then later telekinetically destroyed the engines of a Nebulon frigate whilst defending himself from the actual thrust of the engines themselves.
DE Luke is more powerful than either of them, not only is it stated by numerous characters in Dark Empire but also by Luke himself that he was already stronger than Vader by then.
DE Luke is an absolute monster in the Force easily capable of duking it out with Vitiate. Furthermore he is laughably faster by magnitudes and has lightsaber abilities beyond anything Vitiate has ever seen.
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Within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame. This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker.
Because we might as well be trying to reach Andromeda with giant rubber bands and chimps. We all already know your stance on the topic, we've had it billions of times before; what's the point in even trying? You're going to say Vitiate regardless.