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Why didn't God kill the Devil?
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Because according to the Bible I will kill the devil. And before anyone asks, yes my name is Mikael and yes I am the archangel: the perfect creation, and no I'm not crazy.

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Because he still loved him. Lucifer was pretty much the perfect being besides God and God couldn't bring himself to actually end him.





Actually, archangel Michael is just as perfect (except perhaps in beauty). Moreso actually, since he doesn't have betrayal in his blood as Lucifer did. The name Michael even means "He who is like God". One of the articles I linked to on the first page gives one of the best theories, imo, as to why He didn't kill Him. Or perhaps He didn't because he wanted man to wrestle with temptation from the devil to test him and prove his love for God. Or maybe, since he created him immortal, He just didn't want to kill a being He originally intended to let live forever because it didn't sit well with Him.


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We can delve into the historicity of the term if you want to. What is the source you're citing here?

Ezekiel 28 IIRC.


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Because God never do violence like humans. That's just my opinion big grin

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Re: Why didn't God kill the Devil?

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This is a serious question..I'm an atheist, but lets pretend God does exist for a minute. God is supposed to be good and Satan is supposed to be evil. In the bible God kills evil humans en masse on multiple occasions. So why not Satan?



Really, 'the devil' is a combined image of *several* biblical figures, not all opposed to god.


But a lot of it comes down to the idea that the Bible was written under a mindset of 'God is the most powerful,' but not the modern 'God can poof and do anything,' conception.


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Because God never do violence like humans. That's just my opinion big grin
God disagrees.


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He wants us to live lives of suffering and anguish.


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If you read the the Bible, at their final battle in Revelations, he (God) planned it all along. They (God and Satan) would turn into their true forms (Satan as a dragon that looks like Hydra, and Jesus in his giant glowing Buddha form with flaming eyes and double-edged sword tongue) with Jesus ultimately slaying Satan via sword tongue.

In other words, God did it for the lulz. He spared him so he could defeat Satan someday, so that he could prove that even though Satan may have tempted us humans towards sin for thousands of years, he was the superior combatant all along. Satan only shares a portion of God's power, after all. Satan's total offensive output is equivalent to half of God's powers. He only has evil powers; he lacks God's other good powers.


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That is what it really comes down to. This is all a game to God.


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Assuming God exists, either because he is not capable (so he isn't omnipotent) or not willing (so he isn't perfect in morality).

Many in the western world like to think evil exists, yet that God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, and the sole creator of reality. This can't really be the case. If God exists, he can be omnipotent or perfect in morality. He can't be both.


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If we are assuming the biblical God exists then he is surely capable of it. He just plain doesn't want to do anything. Sometimes this thing acts good, sometimes it acts bad. At best he's like Mxy from the Superman comics, but only after having done a whole lot of bath salt.


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Assuming God exists, either because he is not capable (so he isn't omnipotent) or not willing (so he isn't perfect in morality).

Many in the western world like to think evil exists, yet that God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, and the sole creator of reality. This can't really be the case. If God exists, he can be omnipotent or perfect in morality. He can't be both.


There is an appointed Day of Judgment for fallen angels and mankind. It is similar to how we do not execute death elrow inmates immediately after sentencing.


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There is an appointed Day of Judgment for fallen angels and mankind. It is similar to how we do not execute death elrow inmates immediately after sentencing.


It figures even the heavenly forces can't execute people quickly. As it is in heaven it is on Earth.


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It figures even the heavenly forces can't execute a motherf*cker quickly. As it is in heaven it is on Earth.


Technically, to God, Satan has already been sent to the Lake of Fire. There is no such thing as time in Eternity. All events past, present, and future are occuring simultaneously to God.


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That is the ultimate omnipotency copout.


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As I said before, Satan will burn forever in the lake of fire. God nor Archangel Michael or any other angel will actually slay him. All the fallen angels are practically immortal just as the loyal angels are. Burning forever is a much more fitting punishment anyway for one such as he. Slaying him would be letting him get off easy. Not sure what the fate of the other fallen angels will be but I assume they will burn forever too for following him.


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I see, slaying him would be letting him off easy. So let him commit whatever potential atrocities he wants because hey one day in the future, a future that might be thousands or even millions of years away, he will burn in a lake of fire.

Yep that is about as much logic as I'd expect.


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God blames Free will even though in his infinite knowledge he can see every potential action, every thought, and predict every consequence while in our fallible mortal intellect we are subject to the causal nature of supposed "Original sin" and a Fallen being whom we've never met that seduced a pair of human beings thousands of years ago, by a tree God planted, and left sitting there and damned the rest of human beings without consent or without justification to being eternally ****ed when we did nothing wrong and came into this world having done nothing.

Sounds about right with the ****ed up Christian worldview.


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Well, he is chained in the bottomless pit during Christ's 1000 year rule on Earth. Afterwards, Satan is released for a short time for one final insurgency, then he is judged and cast into the lake of fire.


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