Well he did say IF...but eh more than likely they will....and again Dave, how does her fighting Anakin mean anything to fighting Vader?....Dave can't even talk about his own characters straight, let alone anything else about Star Wars it seems.. Also....I didn't realize that Vader and Anakin shared the same weaknesses? Whatever those are...
Apparently Vader and Anakin are the same 'character' despite the fact that Obi-Wan and Vader noted he is no longer Anakin Skywalker.
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*shrug* Still nothing to put her over Shaak then. Not saying Shaak would give Vader a brutal fight but she certainly wouldn't be a push over, and she knows nothing of Vader to give her an advantage unlike Ahsoka (apparently).
Honestly it's just reason that Shaak would be better. The Jedi Archives were captured and destroyed, all training areas were kept under strict surveillance and any Jedi had to keep their identity on the down low. I honestly don't understand how Ahsoka is supposed to magically become one of the most revered Jedi in History, a brilliant sword master etc with literally no training...
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Indeed. Good, not a prodigy. She should have made Council, if she'd actually been trained properly, but she had no way to hone her skills, so the question is how she would ever reach that level?
I dunno, I think that if you can take on Grievous you've got some pretty good shit under your belt. A much more powerful Ahsoka could certainly be a force to contend with Vader.
If anyone is going to have an advantage in terms of familiarity it should be Vader. He's the one whose changed his fighting style and overall tactics in how he approaches combat. And, you know, he taught her pretty much everything she knows in terms of fighting when she was a Jedi. Her gaining any edge because of familiarity is seriously ridiculous. But then again, we're dealing with Filoni who isn't always spot-on when it comes to these things.
As for Ahsoka increasing so drastically, I don't understand what's so insane about it. So many Force-wielders have increased their skills without a master, proper training, etc. We don't really know anything about what Ahsoka was doing between TCW and Rebels, but I'm pretty sure there'd be plenty of opportunities to hone her skills and learn more / better combat techniques. Also, as mentioned in Rebels, there are many Jedi Temples throughout the Galaxy that weren't destroyed by the Empire, so that could've provided learning opportunities for Ahsoka if she desired to seek out these Temples.
Also, as far as Ahsoka's talent and potential goes: "While Ahsoka is gifted with raw Force talent, her tendency to follow her heart challenges her path to knighthood." - Ultimate Star Wars
I mean, ****, what non-prodigy is being offered to rejoin the Order as a Jedi Knight at 16? Please.
Any teenager who is surviving encounters with General Grievous, Asajj Ventress, and one-upping remarkably skilled warriors like Pre Vizsla is probably pretty prodigious, lol.
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Most retarded post of the thread goes to Beni, which is impressive given one of them includes Filoni basically saying Anakin = Vader.
Hint: Literally no one is denying she could be that level in force mastery, just that logically her duelling skills should not be among the best of all time learning from a Holocron and not having sparred with anyone in 8 years.
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As I said in my last post, she won't have sparred with anyone in years, and at best has learned what she learns from a Holocron. The Inquisitor is living proof that knowledge =/= skill. For any of this to matter, Ahsoka would need to approach not only Council level skill with a blade, but actually top-council member level. Look at every skilled duelist from Windu to Exar Kun, they learn through ruthless and unrelenting training, not from a holocron.
And no, that's not prodigy. Prodigy among the Jedi Order's history is Yoda, Revan, Jacen Solo, Cade Skywalker level, and they have more impressive padawan feats than that. I already conceded she would become a Council Level warrior/Jedi had she been allowed to, I just don't consider Council members prodigies.
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