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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
I rather doubt SS could take out Chester the way he did to Cable.
Well Black isn't a mutant from marvel with an x-gene.
He could just give Black a concussion though, or however he lost is powers the first battle.
Nov 24th, 2015 04:08 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Emma needed Cerebra to shield the X-Men's minds and she said she shields were 'barely holding', just because they were flying close to Providence.
As soon as Cable knew they were there, he broke through the mental blocks with ease. Or he knew they were there the whole time, and let Emma think her shields were holding... it's a little ambiguous.
Yea, I knew it was something like that, and they needed DP because he's ommune to tp.
I need to read C/D again.
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Nov 24th, 2015 04:12 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Here Emma Frost w/Cerebra notes that psionic shields are barely holding, and says that Cable has ionized the entire planet with his telepathy, and is listening to every thought in the world.
Here * Cable reveals that he knows the whole plan, meaning the psionic shields never did hold, and he simply allowed Emma Frost to believe it.
Here he casually reads Scott's mind, even though Emma shielded it with Cerebra.
*Deadpool references 'gravity generators' for Providence. It's revealed later that no such generators exist, and Cable has been levitating the island with telekinesis the entire time.
Nov 24th, 2015 04:19 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Well Black isn't a mutant from marvel with an x-gene.
He could just give Black a concussion though, or however he lost is powers the first battle.
Before or after Chester fries his brain?
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Nov 24th, 2015 04:34 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Heck, he reprogrammed Bizarro. I don't think Cable has anywhere the level of finesse or power to do something like that seeing J'onn was unable to even read his mind.
Not to mention controlling hundreds of characters across universes.
Cable listened to all thoughts in the world at once, while easing suffering of cancer patients, preventing criminal acts, etc. For weeks.
Either in terms of numbers or finesse, he's one of Marvel's top telepaths.
Nov 24th, 2015 05:31 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Cable listened to all thoughts in the world at once, while easing suffering of cancer patients, preventing criminal acts, etc. For weeks.
Either in terms of numbers or finesse, he's one of Marvel's top telepaths.
That's something J'onn has done close to 5 times in preboot DC. Heck, he has channeled entire earth's minds at once. He was unable to read Bizarro's mind. He was unable to read Doomsday's mind.
Cable couldn't even read Deadpool's mind because it was so chaotic.
Chester effortlessly reprogrammed both Bizarro and Doomsday. Effortlessly swapped Superman's mind with Bizarro and stopped J'onn from reading Superman's mind.
Magnitudes better than anything Cable showed.
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Nov 24th, 2015 06:15 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
That's something J'onn has done close to 5 times in preboot DC. Heck, he has channeled entire earth's minds at once. He was unable to read Bizarro's mind. He was unable to read Doomsday's mind.
Cable couldn't even read Deadpool's mind because it was so chaotic.
Chester effortlessly reprogrammed both Bizarro and Doomsday. Effortlessly swapped Superman's mind with Bizarro and stopped J'onn from reading Superman's mind.
Magnitudes better than anything Cable showed.
No, magnitudes better than J'onn.
Let's not confuse the two.
Nov 24th, 2015 06:22 AM
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Nov 24th, 2015 06:29 AM
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Yes, Emma Frost on Cerebra.
Nov 24th, 2015 06:32 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Yes, Emma Frost on Cerebra.
Deadpool>Emma frost on cerebra?
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Nov 24th, 2015 06:34 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Deadpool>Emma frost on cerebra?
Plastic Man > Fernus?
Nov 24th, 2015 06:36 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
Plastic Man > Fernus?
Yes.
Chester>Bizarro though.
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Nov 24th, 2015 06:37 AM
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I'm not seeing how Deadpool's immunity to having his mind being read supposed to be a knock against Cable.
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Nov 24th, 2015 06:40 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
I'm not seeing how Deadpool's immunity to having his mind being read supposed to be a knock against Cable.
Not a knock. Chaotic minds have always given trouble to telepaths.
That's why reprogramming Bizarro is magnitudes better than any of Cable's feats. His mind is so chaotic that J'onn and Batman both said he makes Joker look sane.
TBH I can't think of any mainstream telepath who has a better feat than that. Even Cassandra Nova who defeated Charles with cerebra had trouble with Logan and Beast when they switched to their animal instincts.
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Nov 24th, 2015 06:49 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Not a knock. Chaotic minds have always given trouble to telepaths.
That's why reprogramming Bizarro is magnitudes better than any of Cable's feats. His mind is so chaotic that J'onn and Batman both said he makes Joker look sane.
TBH I can't think of any mainstream telepath who has a better feat than that. Even Cassandra Nova who defeated Charles with cerebra had trouble with Logan and Beast when they switched to their animal instincts.
His mind isn't chaotic in the same fashion as Joker or Bizarro.
His brain is constantly dying and growing on a cellular level at such a high rate that it makes penetrating his mind impossible. That's nothing like Bizarro or Joker, there are no parallels there that suggest MB can succeed where the strongest Marvel telepaths have failed.
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Nov 24th, 2015 08:57 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
His mind isn't chaotic in the same fashion as Joker or Bizarro.
His brain is constantly dying and growing on a cellular level at such a high rate that it makes penetrating his mind impossible. That's nothing like Bizarro or Joker, there are no parallels there that suggest MB can succeed where the strongest Marvel telepaths have failed.
Oh really? Then explain how he has been telepathically controlled before?
He was mindcontrolled as recently as in Uncanny X Force.
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Nov 24th, 2015 11:35 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Smurph
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wow, that was some slick quoting and editing skills smurph.
you think cable>cassie?
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Nov 24th, 2015 01:11 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh really? Then explain how he has been telepathically controlled before?
He was mindcontrolled as recently as in Uncanny X Force.
Being telepathically controlled isn't having your mind read.
So...
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Nov 24th, 2015 05:12 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
Being telepathically controlled isn't having your mind read.
So...
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Nov 24th, 2015 05:20 PM
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Not sure what the smiley is for, Cable never tried to mind control him.
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Nov 24th, 2015 05:29 PM
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