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AncientPower
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Important TFA Sidious revelation(Spoilers)

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: It is stated not only by the old dude in the tent with Poe but also by the opening crawl that the Force is still out of balance. Meaning Darth Sidious was not the only thing unbalancing the Force as it was still that way by the point of the movie.

Just food for thought.


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Interesting. You must have had the special AncientPower version of the crawl.


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AncientPower
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No, it is said:

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: That Luke Skywalker had disappeared and in his absence the 'sinister' First Order arose causing chaos, that the Force was out of balance because of that.

The old guy that Kylo Ren kills reinforces this when he says to Poe that only Luke can bring the Force back into balance.


I am not making anything up and your condescension is unwarranted.


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You're wrong.

Here is the crawl: http://imgur.com/a/B3cBF


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AncientPower
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I stand corrected then, though what the old man says in the tent still holds weight.


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Not really [SPOILER - highlight to read]: it's been 30 years since ROTJ, its not as if the force could have become imbalanced again.


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lol

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I'm more curious as to what role if any he played or if Sidious had any involvement/knew of his existence in prior the prior era.


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Isn't that "old dude" a muggle? Who cares about what he says? Also you think it might have something to do with the massive amount of death caused by Starkiller? Just a thought.

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NewGuy01
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Who knows what he is? He's a guy who knows where Luke Skywalker is apparently. He may very well be one of Luke's surviving students.

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Pretty sure the leaks, that are now nuked, from the visual dictionary said he wasn't. Either way, like I said, there's a weapon that kills billions at a time out there. If the Clone Wars can cause imbalance, so could that.

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I was given the impression from the opening crawl that it was the general rise of the First Order and disappearance of Luke Skywalker that caused the imbalance.


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The novel reveals Snoke saw the Empire rise and fall and that he's had other apprentices besides Kylo, but believes Kylo is his greatest.


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ayy.


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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The novel reveals Snoke saw the Empire rise and fall and that he's had other apprentices besides Kylo, but believes Kylo is his greatest.


That was obvious. The Knights of Ren are his organization. What are you plugging your eyes with?

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DarthAnt66
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The denial Snoke is a Palpatine-level Force user.


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Snoke > Valkoriate incoming


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DarthAnt66
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I repeat that Snoke being Palpatine level discredits the Chosen One prophecy which was one of the major plot lines of the first and third film.


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I hope he's weaker than Kylo too, tbh.


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NewGuy01
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...fat chance of that. He's probably on the same level as Luke, whatever that level is.

If Luke is Yoda level, he's bound to be Sidious level. But I don't get the impression that either of them are that strong.

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