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abhilegend
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Was Surfer was flying around at a distance? Were they at close range when Henshaw was telling him to hold still? Also Surfer during that period was the type who always held back.

Surfer was dodging HVs like his life depended on it like a ballerina.

Not to someone who destroyed a planet and when he goes "Mine is the power cosmic" speech.
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Originally posted by riv6672
Guess i get to have fun at your expense, then. Because i always have fun with you.

Oh you. Here you go with force field rings.

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Not even Superman can breach it.


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Nice!

Refer to my earlier post.
Though i have to wonder if that particular feature has ever been used before or since, context, etcetera. Knowing Brainiac, it may have been a mission specific function. It may also have bern assumption on the writer's part.
Its happened before.

But, hey, i stand by my earlier preemptive apology.
And i still have fun with you. yes


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, Galactus took away his life force which was powering Destroyer, it has nothing to do with the fact that Thing did stalemate Destroyer in a fight.


Its the only fight Destroyer as herald was in, so we can use only this to gauge it. Did I ever say Thing defeated him or whatever BS you are saying?

Glad you finally admitted that Thing fought a Destroyer that had basically stopped fighting back early in the fight.
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I know you deal in half-truths all the time, but it's a good step forward.. Then again you probably would never have mentioned beyond claims of a "stalemate" if you weren't called out on it.


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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Glad you finally admitted that Thing fought a Destroyer that had basically stopped fighting back early in the fight.
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laughing out loud

Here we go with strawman and red herrings.

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I know you deal in half-truths all the time, but it's a good step forward.. Then again you probably would never have mentioned beyond claims of a "stalemate" if you weren't called out on it.




Oh you.


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abhilegend
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Originally posted by riv6672
Nice!

Refer to my earlier post.
Though i have to wonder if that particular feature has ever been used before or since, context, etcetera. Knowing Brainiac, it may have been a mission specific function. It may also have bern assumption on the writer's part.
Its happened before.

But, hey, i stand by my earlier preemptive apology.
And i still have fun with you. yes

Yeah, so even with posting scans of this doesn't changes your mind.

Color me unsurprised.

If by fun you mean trolling and passive aggressive bitching, yes I agree.


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With surfer,morg with WOL and destroyer,heralds would probably win

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Depends on which White Witch we're using.

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Speedsters are such jobbers.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, so even with posting scans of this doesn't changes your mind.

Color me unsurprised.

If by fun you mean trolling and passive aggressive bitching, yes I agree.

Aw man, you're really gonna hate this then.
I have to retract my apology. stick out tongue

I farmed your scans, and our conversation (for context), out to a LoSH subject matter expert yesterday, and had a response waiting this morning.
He pointed out a few things.

The scans you posted display a mission specific function, as the story cited had the LoSH using huge amounts of prep. Its likely why you didnt post them initially, as a more LoSH savvy poster might have pointed that out.
Booster Gold famously used a Legion flight ring and B5 FF belt to set himself up as a hero. If the ring could have performed more than the one function, he wouldnt have needed the belt to perform the other. Neither would B5 for that matter.
If the entire LoSH had anything near B5 level FF generating ability, it would have been used in countless stories, over several versions. He cited the Legion of 3 Worlds storyline, where a trio of distinct teams fought for their lives, against Superboy Prime, a villain intent on literally ripping them apart. No FFs.

No hard feelings, though. Well, not on my part.


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Are there any trans tiers in this legion team?

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Speedsters are such jobbers.

laughing out loud


Yeah, Flash when he was restricted to Mach 1. Great going.

Really.


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Aw man, you're really gonna hate this then.
I have to retract my apology. stick out tongue

I farmed your scans, and our conversation (for context), out to a LoSH subject matter expert yesterday, and had a response waiting this morning.
He pointed out a few things.

The scans you posted display a mission specific function, as the story cited had the LoSH using huge amounts of prep. Its likely why you didnt post them initially, as a more LoSH savvy poster might have pointed that out.
Booster Gold famously used a Legion flight ring and B5 FF belt to set himself up as a hero. If the ring could have performed more than the one function, he wouldnt have needed the belt to perform the other. Neither would B5 for that matter.
If the entire LoSH had anything near B5 level FF generating ability, it would have been used in countless stories, over several versions. He cited the Legion of 3 Worlds storyline, where a trio of distinct teams fought for their lives, against Superboy Prime, a villain intent on literally ripping them apart. No FFs.

No hard feelings, though. Well, not on my part.

I'd like to see this Legion expert which has the proof it being mission specific. The rings were standard rings

The force fields are standard for LOSH. Heck, it's all which stops Superman when powerless survive in Vacuum here.

Along with every other human level legionnaires.


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Are there any trans tiers in this legion team?


Yes, White Witch who defeated Mordru after he had absorbed magic of two universes.


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Aw man, you're really gonna hate this then.
I have to retract my apology. stick out tongue

I farmed your scans, and our conversation (for context), out to a LoSH subject matter expert yesterday, and had a response waiting this morning.
He pointed out a few things.

The scans you posted display a mission specific function, as the story cited had the LoSH using huge amounts of prep. Its likely why you didnt post them initially, as a more LoSH savvy poster might have pointed that out.
Booster Gold famously used a Legion flight ring and B5 FF belt to set himself up as a hero. If the ring could have performed more than the one function, he wouldnt have needed the belt to perform the other. Neither would B5 for that matter.
If the entire LoSH had anything near B5 level FF generating ability, it would have been used in countless stories, over several versions. He cited the Legion of 3 Worlds storyline, where a trio of distinct teams fought for their lives, against Superboy Prime, a villain intent on literally ripping them apart. No FFs.

No hard feelings, though. Well, not on my part.


I DEMAND THAT YOU BRING THIS LOSH EXPERT HERE BEFORE ME!!!


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^^^Thats nice. smile


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Originally posted by abhilegend
I'd like to see this Legion expert which has the proof it being mission specific. The rings were standard rings

The force fields are standard for LOSH. Heck, it's all which stops Superman when powerless survive in Vacuum here.

Along with every other human level legionnaires.


The rings providing ff for environmental protection is pretty standard post COIE (at least main continuity, they no longer had their suits designed by Brainy). But that a far cry from what was shown i lightning sagare the rings. Now I'll grant it never stated they were specifically prepared that way for the mission, but I certainly cant think of another instance when the rings showed FF's of that level.

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They never have to my knowledge, either. There's too many times when a personal force field would have been handy, or saved a human legionnaire from harm or danger.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer was dodging HVs like his life depended on it like a ballerina.

Not to someone who destroyed a planet and when he goes "Mine is the power cosmic" speech.


Nice attempts at deflecting... but it's not going to work.

1.Was the fight interrupted before it was finished?

2. Is the fight that Henshaw can't beat Surfer?

3. Was Surfer's speed too much for Cyborg(a being with a Kryptonian physiology and a computerized brain) once he decided he didn't want to be hit anymore?

Now in regards to your deflections, almost all of the links are dead but Avy made several post in Henshaw's respect thread and claimed that they showed Cyborg demonstrated super speed. Don't get me wrong because Avy was notorious for misrepresenting scans too, I'm just wondering if those were cases of his twisting of things at work? Also, in one of the few scans in that thread that do work, Cyborg used his speed to tear Doomsday a new one so what about that?

Was there anything to indicate that Surfer was dodging HV because his life depended on it other than him dodging successfully enough to enrage Cyborg? Do we assume that Supes is dodging like his life depends on it just because he starts dodging attacks?

And sure he'd still hold back, during that period he almost never went for the kill. Did he say anything to indicate that he was giving it his all? I mean other than saying "mine is the power cosmic"(which he says A LOT)?


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Originally posted by beatboks
The rings providing ff for environmental protection is pretty standard post COIE (at least main continuity, they no longer had their suits designed by Brainy). But that a far cry from what was shown i lightning sagare the rings. Now I'll grant it never stated they were specifically prepared that way for the mission, but I certainly cant think of another instance when the rings showed FF's of that level.

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They never have to my knowledge, either. There's too many times when a personal force field would have been handy, or saved a human legionnaire from harm or danger.


Pretty much what i was told.


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