So if Living Tribunal tried to attack John with that spell on..what would happen?
Couldn't Odin just negate the spell because..well, he's Odin? But seriously, how does Odin not have a huge cache of magic shit to draw from, plus his own power? This is prep we are talking about.
It just seems to me both of them would have powerful magic items to draw upon, the only difference being one of them is a skyfather level being even without the magic items.
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Again couldn't Constantine negate the spell because well..., he's Constantine?
That isn't the best argument to propagate because you haven't really given any evidence to support it. I can just say the same thing and it doesn't make either of us right without evidence.
See my edit, I wasn't being really serious with that, but the Phantom Stranger thing seems to be one sided prep.
I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you that cosmic beings have underestimated John and been owned.
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The thing is Odin is a Skyfather in power and probably has a nice attache to boot. But so does Constantine. And I just think Constantine can tip the scales.
If they both have insanely powerful artifacts to draw upon, but one of them is also way way more naturally powerful..why wouldn't that person win?
A lot of the feats seem John being able to momentarily do something. Like with fooling Darkseid and his "18" divine senses. That is kept up for a very short time until Darkseid just swats him aside and leaves. Either he temporarily fights off a powerful being or he takes advantage of one sided prep to trap one.
I guess I could be wrong and Asgard just has shitty magic items? But this is the place where things like the Asgardian Destroyer came from.
Surely with prep Odin rounds up some dwarves and shit and they..do stuff? With magic? They magic-up some stuff lol. Isn't that who builds their magic stuff though?
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Erm, no - the Dolus spell was still in effect. Darkseid swatted him aside because he had no more need for him, believing (mistakenly) that he had already vaped Earth.
There was nothing temporary about it. DS left because, according to all his senses, the Earth was gone.
As for your first point - because in a prep war, it is down to cunning and trickery as well.
Not just showing up on the battlefied with the biggest gun you can get your hands on.
I'm sure it's about cunning too, but I'm sure there are lots of items.
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Oh yes, I am not saying Odin has nothing to bring to the fight.
Or that it is an autowin because lulz, Constantine finds a way.
But in a prep war against a human magician? Even with prior knowledge, you think Odin will come out clad in the Destroyer Armour, wielding the Twilight Sword and Casket against a mere human?
If he knows the human fought off a multiversal being? Yes.
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Nobody knows who John is, much less that he fooled Darkseid.
Thanks to Broxton, am pretty sure Asgardians are well known. Even if not, the fact that he's fighting Odin (who's pretty famous in Norse mythology) would be a major advantage for John.
That doesn't make sense to me though. I mean obviously I understand John isn't very well known..but then that really just seems like basic knowledge more favors well known characters.
Like some characters are literally known by..not a single person. So the basic knowledge of them would be..nothing at all. But then what is the point of basic knowledge in the first place then?
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So we at least agree that Odin could indeed win this fight, he just won't because he underestimates John.
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It still basically seems to be "he'll trick him cuz he's Constantine".
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