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Darth Caedus vs. Anakin Skywalker (sabers)
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Jmanghan
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Because the RotS novel makes it clear that Anakin is Dooku's superior? Also, this is "peak" Anakin, i.e. the One With the Force Anakin who did indeed stomp Dooku. So he should beat Caedus.
Stop bringing up irrelevant novels.

The movies are more canon.

Movies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Novels.

We all just need to pretend the novels don't exist.


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If we're talking about the Anakin who was literally battering Dooku into straight humiliation, yeah, he wins. It should be a good fight, though - Caedus has greater Force reserves and physical abilities compared to the Count and probably about the same level of skill.

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Uh, no, Caedus was able to combat Luke for a time.

Or was that Jaina disguised as Luke?

I can't recall.


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Even ignoring the fact that Luke was fighting stupidly throughout Inferno, I'm not too sure if that's necessarily reflective of Caedus' actual ability as a duelist. It's a high-end showing of sorts, whilst he has some low showings like struggling with Mandalorians and what not. That said, his ability to perform as well as he did against Jaina under considerably negative circumstances is very impressive, it's just that Anakin's already better than Jaina, let alone when as enraged as he is here. He beats Caedus in a good fight.

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We don't talk about Dark Disciple here.

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Even ignoring the fact that Luke was fighting stupidly throughout Inferno, I'm not too sure if that's necessarily reflective of Caedus' actual ability as a duelist. It's a high-end showing of sorts, whilst he has some low showings like struggling with Mandalorians and what not. That said, his ability to perform as well as he did against Jaina under considerably negative circumstances is very impressive, it's just that Anakin's already better than Jaina, let alone when as enraged as he is here. He beats Caedus in a good fight.

It's not a high end showing at all. Caedus poisoned Luke, choked him, tied him and Ben up, and then used the fact that he killed Mara to throw him off balance. And he was still absolutely shat on. In fact he feels good about this fight because he didn't die, which is retarded within itself given all the advantages he had. Why do people think this is impressive?

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It's not a high end showing at all. Caedus poisoned Luke, choked him, tied him and Ben up, and then used the fact that he killed Mara to throw him off balance. And he was still absolutely shat on. In fact he feels good about this fight because he didn't die, which is retarded within itself given all the advantages he had. Why do people think this is impressive?
Because Anakin couldn't have done it. smile

Regardless, its because its Luke ****ing Skywalker, one of, if not, the best duelist in history.


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Stop bringing up irrelevant novels.

The movies are more canon.

Movies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Novels.

We all just need to pretend the novels don't exist.


That's... not true. Lucas himself has authorised and even aided in the writing of the novels, or at least of the RotS novel. So it's as valid as the movie. You can now stop your cherry picking.


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Because Anakin couldn't have done it. smile

Regardless, its because its Luke ****ing Skywalker, one of, if not, the best duelist in history.

Are you ****tarded? An Anakin tier duelist would murder anyone, even Luke under these circumstances. The reason is probably because most people didn't actually read Inferno and took some random's word for it when they said Caedus did well.

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That's... not true. Lucas himself has authorised and even aided in the writing of the novels, or at least of the RotS novel. So it's as valid as the movie. You can now stop your cherry picking.

Nah there's a quote saying even in G-canon movies trump everything else.


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The novels don't contradict the movie. They expand upon it. It counts.


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It's kind of funny, because if I had written "Zonakin" people would have probably sided with him, but I'm specifying the exact same Anakin in the same state, lol.


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The novels don't contradict the movie. They expand upon it. It counts.
No, because Visuals.

Hell, in the Novel, they don't even see Palpatine kill Tiin, they just sit there and his head falls off or something.


The novel most certainly contradicts a lot of shit in the movie.


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It counts when it expands, not when it completely contradicts. Like Dooku throwing a table at them? Wtf no that never happened. Obi-Wan bending Grievous's arm? Never happened. Tiin dying because of some weird telepathic ****ery? Never happened.


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It's kind of funny, because if I had written "Zonakin" people would have probably sided with him, but I'm specifying the exact same Anakin in the same state, lol.
Amps and states of Oneness do happen, they've happened to everyone at one point or another.


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Right, and?


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It counts when it expands, not when it completely contradicts. Like Dooku throwing a table at them? Wtf no that never happened. Obi-Wan bending Grievous's arm? Never happened. Tiin dying because of some weird telepathic ****ery? Never happened.

Expanding, not contradicting. thumb up It doesn't need to play out scene-by-scene by the book to still be considered legitimate.


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The ROTS and AOTC novels' nightmare of discontinuity really makes me appreciate how well the TFA novel actually sticks to the movie thumb up


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Nah there's a quote saying even in G-canon movies trump everything else.


Sure, but the novel is Lucas' own words described by Stover's flowery antics. So it should hold a comparable amount of legitimacy to the movie.


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Expanding, not contradicting. thumb up It doesn't need to play out scene-by-scene by the book to still be considered legitimate.
Yes it does.

If we don't see it on the screen during that particular event, its contradicting it.

We see the entire battle, all those scenes.

However, I remember the part about Obi-Wan bending Grievous' arm, he did it for like a second before Grievous tossed his ass INTO the ****ing ceiling.


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