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The Ellimist
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AotC Anakin has one of the best falling feats ever lol.


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You're wanking of that already failed, lol.


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No it didn't? The point is, it's better than Arcann's and so renders the latter kind of moot.


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And it didn't cripple the ships; it killed the pilots inside the ships and since nobody could then operate the crafts, they crashed.

Wrong.

It short-circuited the Starships. The crew of each Starship got electrocuted as well since they were in contact with machinery.

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Vader tanking the lightning of Starkiller is honestly a better feat.

You've got to be kidding me?

Starkiller have nothing on Valkorion.

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And Tyranus and Asajj have similar feats of plummeting from insane heights and surviving; the Count wasn't even harmed.

Quantify insane heights please.

Arcann did not willfully descend in great physical shape and clear focus. He was bombarded with Force powers that eventually sent him flying below the platform.

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No it didn't? The point is, it's better than Arcann's and so renders the latter kind of moot.

No, you are posting nonsense.

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Lol


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No it didn't? The point is, it's better than Arcann's and so renders the latter kind of moot.


You did. It isn't though, since Anakin didn't do his feat after a fight and being overpowered by Valkorion's lightning.


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And Anakin fell on a speeder. He did not fell at the bottom of Skycrapers. His plummet would be like a few hundred feet.

In case of Arcann, the bottom was so deep that it was blurred to eye sight.

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If the falling feat is now meant to show that a weakened Arcann can replicate an inferior version of AotC Anakin's showing, I don't see how it's useful anymore.


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If the falling feat is now meant to show that a weakened Arcann can replicate an inferior version of AotC Anakin's showing, I don't see how it's useful anymore.

Your argument is flawed.

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And Anakin fell on a speeder. He did not fell at the bottom of Skycrapers. His plummet would be like a few hundred feet.

In case of Arcann, the bottom was so deep that it was blurred to eye sight.


He would already have hit terminal velocity, so it hardly makes a difference. What makes it so impressive is that he times perfectly the fall onto a metallic speeder (which would also jerk him sideways), and with no injuries.


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What notes that is an instinctive barrier?

And it didn't cripple the ships; it killed the pilots inside the ships and since nobody could then operate the crafts, they crashed.

Vader tanking the lightning of Starkiller is honestly a better feat.

And Tyranus and Asajj have similar feats of plummeting from insane heights and surviving; the Count wasn't even harmed.


Because Valkorion hits him with it almost instantaneously after a slow time scene.

Smoke and electric discharges as well as light flickering, he clearly damaged the ships too. This is only a fraction of the lightning Arcann himself was blocking.

Valkorion casually 'destroyed' Marr's body instantly, easily two-shotted a strike team of the most powerful Jedi in the Order, including the Hero and Tol Braga, pre-prime, and when massively pre-prime, overwhelmed Revan's tutaminis and paralysed him. Starkiller's lightning surpassing or equating that, is straight retarded.


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Wrong.

It short-circuited the Starships. The crew of each Starship got electrocuted as well since they were in contact with machinery.


And Vader couldn't defend against that with a Barrier, why?

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You've got to be kidding me?

Starkiller have nothing on Valkorion.


No shit Sherlock, but 'Killer's usual lightning barrages, or just in general feats of raw power, eclipse short-circuting ships and killing fodder.

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Quantify insane heights please.

Arcann did not willfully descend in great physical shape and clear focus. He was bombarded with Force powers that eventually sent him flying below the platform.


Dooku's should be of similar height as Arcann's, and Asajj's is unknown. And they didn't willfully go kamikaze and leap off massive heights, lmao. Dooku just fought both Mace and Kenobi and sustained several close range explosions before the platform he was standing on, and he himself plummeted to the ground. And Asajj got bombarded by an enraged Anakin's assault, after one of her arms got nearly snapped like a twig.


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No shit Sherlock, but 'Killer's usual lightning barrages, or just in general feats of raw power, eclipse short-circuting ships and killing fodder.


No, they don't. no expression

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Dooku's should be of similar height as Arcann's, and Asajj's is unknown. And they didn't willfully go kamikaze and leap off massive heights, lmao. Dooku just fought both Mace and Kenobi and sustained several close range explosions before the platform he was standing on, and he himself plummeted to the ground. And Asajj got bombarded by an enraged Anakin's assault, after one of her arms got nearly snapped like a twig.


Dooku fell into water though. erm


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Because Valkorion hits him with it almost instantaneously after a slow time scene.

Smoke and electric discharges as well as light flickering, he clearly damaged the ships too. This is only a fraction of the lightning Arcann himself was blocking.

Valkorion casually 'destroyed' Marr's body instantly, easily two-shotted a strike team of the most powerful Jedi in the Order, including the Hero and Tol Braga, pre-prime, and when massively pre-prime, overwhelmed Revan's tutaminis and paralysed him. Starkiller's lightning surpassing or equating that, is straight retarded.


So what? Kas'im can throw up a Barrier "in an instant", and you're telling me Arcann cannot?

The only smoke I see is after two ships collide because their pilots died.

I'm not saying 'Killer > Valkorion, lmao. I'm saying the barrage of lightning Valkorion threw at Arcann in that instance isn't quite the same as an all-out Starkiller's barrage.


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No, they don't. no expression


'Killer? Yeah, he can kill fodder and send a surge through a small ship easily.

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Dooku fell into water though. erm


I don't recall it being water; though the texture of the game is sketchy.


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Valkorion casually 'destroyed' Marr's body instantly, easily two-shotted a strike team of the most powerful Jedi in the Order, including the Hero and Tol Braga, pre-prime, and when massively pre-prime, overwhelmed Revan's tutaminis and paralysed him. Starkiller's lightning surpassing or equating that, is straight retarded.


Lmao, Valkorion was weakened against Arcann.

This is what happens when he is not: https://youtu.be/2g7BwwggxFI?t=20m51s


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Tanking the centre of the explosion of the biggest weapon factory in the galaxy, tanking the explosion on Malachor >>> that.


Neither of those can be considered feats Zoltan, they are are tropes. Storytelling shorthands for a concept that the audience will recognize and understand instantly. In this case - the villain escapes the calamity around him to see another day:

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We've all seen in on our TV sets or in comics. There is a catastrophic event that should have killed the antagonist, yet he lives. Much of the tanking is not displayed on screen, like Grievous above, who seemingly survives an explosion that can level an entire city - and come out unscathed. Yet we know of course, that Grievous will not be shrugging off that same level of damage in front of our eyes:

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The same goes for Vader. The off screen element of his tanking on Malachor leaves the feat open to a range of borderline cases. Did he escape last minute and find cover? Possibly? He doesn't look too hot when it comes to tanking splash damage on-panel:

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Quite clearly, it takes far less than Sith super-weapons to incapacitate Vader in the midst of combat.


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A weakened Valkorion is still a Revan Reborn stomper.


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Don't find having a magic power up saber that only works against Arcann and beating him in a saber duel only because Arcann lost his footing to be all that impressive.
This doesn't even make sense or fit in the story. Why would Valkorion be shitting on you for not being ready to defeat Arcann, and then praise you for proving yourself ready by defeating him if your achievement is solely based on a lightsaber? And Valky himself says that you have to finish your training or Arcann will defeat you, and then he does the amp thing. I'd say these matter more than a sketchy lightsaber amp that doesn't even make sense as a concept.

Also, doesn't Arcann's alignment to the Force make it harder for Jedi/Sith to fight him? In that sense, I personally think that the Outlander's new training and weapon is an answer to the advantage that Arcann already has.


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