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yeah. my opinion has always been namor/wonderman are approx equals, just below the top tier guys like thor/herc/hyperion/ww/cm. then you got the hulk and superman. opinions will vary of course, but i think over the long haul those designations would be born out and can be supported pretty strongly, with of course, the odd exception here or there.
yeah, but namor is, well, namor. He has some of the craziest high end showings for anyone in his tier. The guy has done well against the hulk, fought Thor, soloed Ares, sentry, and wonder man, and even made thanks bleed with his punches.
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they never fought to a definitive conclusion, but herc performed feats namor couldn't. even underwater he was able to advance against a coccooned jean grey (i think it was jean) while namor couldn't. on land hes done a few things namor couldn't. they really haven't fought each where herc was out for the kill.
still, namor does have some crazy strength feats. he's def near the top tier guys, and has too many showings to suggest otherwise.
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huh? retconned? what feats were retconned? there is one issue of thor where the whole point of the issue was that he was telling tall tales, but anyone who took those feats as real, well, doesn't know much about thor or herc.... he pretty badly, and regularly, outperformed namor when both were in the avengers though.
So you see whenever the words "Aquaman" and "hang" are in the same sentence I just picture Aquaman's lifeless body hanging from a giant fish hook.
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I see that Hercules buys his chains from the same place Pre Crisis Superboy does.
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It DID get retconned. The second scan in the original post by stilt outright says it. And here's the reason WHY it was retconned : (please log in to view the image)
Obviously Battery Park IS NOT facing the Bronx in Marvel Universe Earth (just like it doesn't IRL). So either someone fixed the rotation of Manhattan Island AFTER Herc pulled it into place (never once mentioned or hinted at) or Herc never pulled the island and exaggerated his feat (outright stated on panel).
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lol
i know the discussion you're talking about. some controversy for sure. not something that i've really felt too strongly about either way. the island was cheesy when it came out, so not hard to believe it has been 'attacked'. there's def some proof that supports a retcon, but there is some support to suggest that it did happen in a typical comic-cheese way. and as cheese feats go, it's really not even all that crazy, so, yeah. retcon or no retcon, whatever.