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Jaggarath
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Vitiate in both.

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Azronger
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AP, even the very name of the comic is Dark Lords of the Sith. Gives off the impression there's more than one.

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Azronger
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Originally posted by Geistalt
Sorry; you're wrong. Even the folks in the Empire who knew of Exar Kun's existence didn't consider him a god (or at least as powerful as the Sith Emperor).

Too bad their opinions are literally worthless as Kun never demonstrated his full power.

And I'm pretty sure nobody relevant knew of the galaxy outside Sith space as of the novel. I may be wrong on this, though, as it's been some time since I've read the novel.

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Vitiate didn't even exist at the time.

Irrelevant.

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Without the lens of Exar-wank, Vitiate either dominates his mind or fries him to death.

And without the lens of Vitiate wank, he probably walks into Exar's lightsaber or dies to a saber throw.

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SunRazer
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Nobody in Vitiate's Empire was aware of Exar at the time he was around, I don't believe. They only know of Kun from recordings and what not that they picked up when they returned to the galaxy 300 years after Kun's time.

And yeah, the sole apprentices of Dark Lords have been known to be called Dark Lords as well. Cases in point being Malak, Maul, Tyranus, Vader, etc — and, of course, Ulic Qel-Droma.

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TheMuser
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So......Kun>Ulic>50 years pre novel vitiate? Happy Dance

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NewGuy01
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It's also possible that Exar's quote is only referring to the legitimate lineage of Sith Lords, from which Vitiate was implied to be excluded.

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TheMuser
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How would you deal with the darkest power in the galaxy quote m8?

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Geistalt
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Originally posted by Azronger
Kun never demonstrated his full power.

Who says?
Didn't he only kill Baas after using the Dark Holocron?

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It's also possible that Exar's quote is only referring to the legitimate lineage of Sith Lords, from which Vitiate was implied to be excluded.

Nowhere is that alluded to. And there's still his other quote, which definitely includes Vitiate.

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If Ulic > Vitiate now I expect Dooku to be put above him too, and scaled off of Sheev accordingly. smile

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Vitiate is Maul tier. thumb up

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TheMuser
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If Ulic > Vitiate now I expect Dooku to be put above him too, and scaled off of Sheev accordingly.

Ulic is vastly superior to Dooku.... Obvious statements r obvious.....

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Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Vitiate is Maul tier.

We're being too generous. smile

Plo Koon tier fits him quite nicely.

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Ulic is vastly superior to Dooku.... Obvious statements r obvious..

Nah; Mace and Dooku are both canonically > Ulic as a Jedi, and this is just as of pre-TPM. Even if Ulic grew, Mace and Dooku both grew as well.

So Dooku/Mace > Ulic > Vitiate. thumb up

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Jaggarath
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Originally posted by Azronger
Nowhere is that alluded to. And there's still his other quote, which definitely includes Vitiate.

Which one?

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Nah; Mace and Dooku are both canonically > Ulic as a Jedi, and this is just as of pre-TPM. Even if Ulic grew, Mace and Dooku both grew as well.

How so? Is this the whole line about mace being the most powerful jedi (Bar Yoda) to walk the halls of the temple? Because IIRC Ulic never walked no halls in no temple bro....
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How so? Is this the whole line about mace being the most powerful jedi (Bar Yoda) to walk the halls of the temple? Because IIRC Ulic never walked no halls in no temple bro....

Semantics, darling. But as a Jedi, he must've been in the Temple at least once, lmao. thumb up

Let's just all hold hands and whistle a song about how Vitiate is actually utter garbage.

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Jaggarath
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I doubt it. The temple didn't become prominent until after the Ossus attack.

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Semantics, darling. But as a Jedi, he must've been in the Temple at least once, lmao.

Let's just all hold hands and whistle a song about how Vitiate is actually utter garbage.

Um, Ulic and cay got sent directly from alderaan to Arca, (I don't recall which planet he was on, but it wasn't coruscant) then he went from there to Onderon, from there (After a battle with teh krath) to Ossus. from there to the emperor teta system IIRC. From there he became a sith.....

when the heck did he go to coruscant, as a jedi note? assumptions with no evidence.....

Your scaling is about as skechy as Sun's/Nova's Kotor 2 hype buddy...

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