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Rebels Ahsoka and Rebels Kenobi vs Rebels Maul and Dooku
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Dooku solos with difficulty


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Maul gets crumpled like a B1 Battle droid by Obi-Wan whilst Dooku ragdolls Ahsoka to oblivion and back, then back to oblivion and beyond.

Then we have a nice duel of the elderly gentlemen in which Tyranus prevails after a hard-fought battle.

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He could win through the force, not sure he could take pure sabers.

Maul needs to sit this one out, he's clearly shit tier and not on par with the greats


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Team 1. Dooku's ability to ragdoll isn't going to be of much use here. And in sabres they are outmatched. sad


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Not sure. I don't see Ahsoka or Maul making much of a difference here though.


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The title of the thread?


It could be composite or Canon. Given that there's no specification and we're in the EU forum, I'm going composite.


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It could be composite or Canon. Given that there's no specification and we're in the EU forum, I'm going composite.



EU stands for "Expanded Universe", defined as anything outside of the films. It does not stand for Legends.

"Canon" is the assumed default anyway.

Also even if it was "composite" why would that give Legends priority over when Vader's prime is?
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EU stands for "Expanded Universe", defined as anything outside of the films. It does not stand for Legends.

"Canon" is the assumed default anyway.

Also even if it was "composite" why would that give Legends priority over when Vader's prime is?


But if we go use Canon over everything that Legends tell us, then what's the point of using Legends to begin with? This would kind of make the whole "Composite" thing kinda moot wouldn't it?


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Originally posted by Darth Thor
EU stands for "Expanded Universe", defined as anything outside of the films. It does not stand for Legends.


It's the same damned thing, lol.

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"Canon" is the assumed default anyway.


Yeah, by you.

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Also even if it was "composite" why would that give Legends priority over when Vader's prime is?


Because the Canon quote is ambiguous and can be interpreted in a multitude of ways, whereas the Legends quote is straightforward.

Also, if we take it to mean that Rebels is Vader's prime as a Force user, it would contradict what he displays in the comics:

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He has to exert far more effort into merely lifting an AT-ST in Rebels, whereas around ANH he can tear apart an AT-AT with seemingly little effort.


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Team 1. Dooku's ability to ragdoll isn't going to be of much use here. And in sabres they are outmatched. sad
Tano dies unless you can provide a solid argument as to how she is significantly above Ventress in the force and has demonstrated feats which would prevent this from happening.

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Tano dies unless you can provide a solid argument as to how she is significantly above Ventress in the force and has demonstrated feats which would prevent this from happening.

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Tano dies unless you can provide a solid argument as to how she is significantly above Ventress in the force and has demonstrated feats which would prevent this from happening.

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Not getting steamrolled by Vader, on a dark side nexus. erm


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Not getting steamrolled by Vader, on a dark side nexus. erm


Um, Vader kinda knocked out with one push. Sure she fell off a ledge but that honestly shouldn't incapacitate any Force user aside from fodder-tier.

And how well does Vader at that point compare to Dooku?


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Probably tougher to beat, considering he was on a nexus.

And doubtlessly Sidious' favorite apprentice.

He gave everyone a beating except Ahsoka, who was kind of familiar with him.

Maybe she chose to rely on that wisdom instead of power, though. That's honestly the best explanation I have for any of what happened in that episode.


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It's the same damned thing, lol.




How exactly do the letters "E" and "U" stand for Legends?

I've already given you the definition of Expanded Universe which is in the forum rules.

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Yeah, by you.



You've been on these boards long enough to check the forum default rules.

Stop accusing me of making stuff up just because you're too lazy to check for yourself.
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Didn't Filoni say Ahsoka had some form advantage over Vader or some sh!t?


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Also, if we take it to mean that Rebels is Vader's prime as a Force user, it would contradict what he displays in the comics:

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He has to exert far more effort into merely lifting an AT-ST in Rebels, whereas around ANH he can tear apart an AT-AT with seemingly little effort.



Inconsistencies in different mediums is normal in SW.

You being more of a Legend fan should be used to that.
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Didn't Filoni say Ahsoka had some form advantage over Vader or some sh!t?



Just that she knows him well so knows how to fight him. He mentioned that once before the fight, but never again after the fight aired.


But hey, what happened to "they're both pros and know each other's moves so it's only realistic to make it a 2 second fight", when it came to Ahsoka vs Vader??
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Um, Vader kinda knocked out with one push. Sure she fell off a ledge but that honestly shouldn't incapacitate any Force user aside from fodder-tier.
sick

No fodder would even last against Vader in an 1:40 engagement, on a dark side nexus, having just fought Maul for two minutes before hand, let alone retained the stamina to fully cushion themselves against a drop of several dozen feet, after having being Force pushed by an AT-AT crushing Force wielder. And neither would Ventress. no expression

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And how well does Vader at that point compare to Dooku?
Vader would put Dooku in a blender. smile


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Didn't Filoni say Ahsoka had some form advantage over Vader or some sh!t?
Kinda debunked by the part where Vader leads Ahsoka to believe that he is not Anakin, and that Anakin is dead.

On the other hand, Vader knows Ahsoka inside and out.


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