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the democrats aren't really liberals.

Indeed they aren't, liberals are supposed to be tolerant people.

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And you know....be actual SUPPORTERS of LIBERTY!

Lefties hate that Liberty nonsense.

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As we approach the implosion of Spain and Greece and the like, I thought I will bring that thread back.

BTW the problem is that socialism still alive and well, even if in a somewhat covered form, among many politicians in Europe and in the West at large.

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Huh. An older video but interesting.

What do you guys think? I must admit I was never in Detroit, but it is shocking how the city deteriorated.

Solutions?

Nov 12th, 2017 03:15 PM

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To bad The BURN MAN didn't win here in MURICA!

I'd argue that they didn't actually implement socialism. They, instead, implemented a corrupt system and tried to pass it off as socialism.

And America is already socialist. We are just less socialist than others and more socialist than others.

If any American says the socialism is evil, tell them that you'll be more than happen to take all of their police protection, fire department services, social security retirement, medicare benefits, and infrastructure from them. And, instead, they have to provide all those things for themselves. They are most certainly not allowed to use the USPS or public roads. And if their city pays for the sewage trash and water, they can't use those, either.

The USA: A Republican, Democratic, Socialist, State.

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I'd argue that they didn't actually implement socialism. They, instead, implemented a corrupt system and tried to pass it off as socialism.

And America is already socialist. We are just less socialist than others and more socialist than others.

If any American says the socialism is evil, tell them that you'll be more than happen to take all of their police protection, fire department services, social security retirement, medicare benefits, and infrastructure from them. And, instead, they have to provide all those things for themselves. They are most certainly not allowed to use the USPS or public roads. And if their city pays for the sewage trash and water, they can't use those, either.

The USA: A Republican, Democratic, Socialist, State.

To bad it WASN'T and ISN"T SOCIALISM that Built and Maintains those Roads.

Which kinds of makes what Obama said kind of true..

No. YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!

Just another LIE of the LEFT!!!!!

And the USPS is pretty much a FAILED Entity at this point so....I can agree with that one being an example of Socialism.

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Every developed country, America included, has both socialist and capitalist aspects of governing.

So "is it socialist or capitalist?" shouldn't be what decides policy, what should decide policy is what is the most beneficial and whether the positives outweigh the negatives.

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The old "If Everybody is doing it" argument.

Nice.

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The old "If Everybody is doing it" argument.

Nice.

I'm not sure what you think I was arguing, but my post was simply asserting that calling a country socialist or capitalist was an oversimplification.

If you want an overly simplistic argument for why we should adopt more socialist policies, here ya go:

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Countries with the highest standard of living in the world

Finland
Canada
Denmark
Switzerland
Sweden
Norway
Netherlands
UK
Iceland

Most socialist countries in the world

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium

I wonder if there's a correlation

Nov 13th, 2017 03:27 AM

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To bad it WASN'T and ISN"T SOCIALISM that Built and Maintains those Roads.

Which kinds of makes what Obama said kind of true..

No. YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!

Just another LIE of the LEFT!!!!!

And the USPS is pretty much a FAILED Entity at this point so....I can agree with that one being an example of Socialism.

Okay, if you're saying something is above what is expected, it's "too," as in, "too bad." If you're wanting to go somewhere like, the shop to buy some beer, it's "to," as in, "I'm going to the shop to buy beer." If you want to use the number, it's two.

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If I lived in a TRULY Socialist Country I would have to get PERMISSION from my Elitist Overlords before I could do it.l

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I'm not sure what you think I was arguing, but my post was simply asserting that calling a country socialist or capitalist was an oversimplification.

If you want an overly simplistic argument for why we should adopt more socialist policies, here ya go:

Yeah. That List is Utter BULLSHIT! Of course those "Studies" will say that stuff. It was done with the exact intention of saying that.

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Yeah. That List is Utter BULLSHIT! Of course those "Studies" will say that stuff. It was done with the exact intention of saying that.

Untill you substantiate either claim, that's nothing more than a conspiracy theory.

Nov 13th, 2017 03:43 AM

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To bad it WASN'T and ISN"T SOCIALISM that Built and Maintains those Roads.

Which kinds of makes what Obama said kind of true..

No. YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!

Just another LIE of the LEFT!!!!!

And the USPS is pretty much a FAILED Entity at this point so....I can agree with that one being an example of Socialism.

So it�s only socialism if it doesn�t work very well?

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Its Socialism. ITS NEVER WORKED!

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Well, tbf, Russia, China, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela and Argentina were not real socialism.

Real socialism is Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands and Sweden.

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Its Socialism. ITS NEVER WORKED!

So you�re saying that roads, the police, firefighters, the military, etc. don�t work?

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^ Sorry to chime in, but that's a strange argument to make. I'm pretty sure roads/police/military etc =/= socialism, gven that they have existed in staunch capitalist countries etc.

Socialism is basically focused on the notion of centralization.

Nov 13th, 2017 11:56 AM

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Its Socialism. ITS NEVER WORKED!

The US clearly isn't working based on your words.

So feel free to GTFO of the US, then. We spent trillions of dollars on socialist programs.

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To bad it WASN'T and ISN"T SOCIALISM that Built and Maintains those Roads.

Nope, sorry, you're wrong! smile

Those roads are paid for and maintained with money taken from the citizens. Collective control of goods and services. Socialism.

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Dude, Fly doesn't even know what time it is, let alone know how to deal with any form of complex reasoning. It's pointless arguing with him about anything, he's either a committed hardcore troll or just a bonafide mouth breather.

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