Whenever this topic is brought up, it's usually said by someone that Luke defeated Palpatine via the help of Leia, which is partially true. She did bond with Luke to cut off Palpatine powering his Force Storm and used Force Harmony on him.
However, people also say Leia empowered Luke during the Lightsaber duel before that Force Storm fiasco, which allowed Luke to cut Palps hand off. Where is the evidence that actually indicates that she empowered Luke during the dueling portion? In the comic there really isn't anything to suggest she bonded her power with him, the closest thing is when Luke asks her to bond with him says says "I already am" however that isn't solid since her phrasing it that way suggests she was in the process of bonding with him, not that she has bonded with him since the beginning or else she would said "I already have"
To support the idea that she didn't Force Bond with Luke, in the audiobook, skip to 2:25:40
During the duel, we see Leias point of view and this is what she says:
"They're both moving so fast I can hardly see them, I feel waves of power, the Dark side and the Light. But, I feel, the Light, is winning!"
Leia is actually surprised that "The Light" AKA Luke is winning and ofc Luke eventually does, slicing his hand off. She makes no indication she was giving her his power. Shortly after, when Palpatine unleashes his Force Storm in the Audiobook, Leia realizes that the Great Holocrons prophecy meant that she had to lend her power to Luke and join their powers together, indicating she wasn't doing that beforehand.
Not to mention no other source such as a guide that talks about the duel ever mentions Leia lended her power to Luke during the dueling portion, only during the Force Storm portion.
I could have obviously overlooked something, and if there's evidence that indicates Leia amped Luke during the dueling portion then please post. If not, DE Luke is seriously underestimated then and so is his later incarnations.
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As Leia's intensity continues to unlock unexpected resources in Luke indicates that she had already been unlocking his potential before she joined in the Force Harmony. Besides, if Luke was truly Palpatine+ level at this point, then he would not be struggling with the likes of Sedriss.
"Continues" does not give a specific time for when Leia began joined her power with his. She could have started a mere panel before. As The Merchant's post shows, she clearly had not begun to join her power to his until after the duel.
On a massive dark side nexus. Palpatine even taunts him in the drama saying, "Did you think you could conquer me by coming here to this. To the very heart of the dark side."
On a massive Dark Side nexus where Palpatine confirmed that Luke was using the new powers Palpatine taught him (Dark Side powers) and when Palpatine had just transferred his essence to a new clone body, meaning he had to fight as soon as he transferred his essenc into a new body.
Palpatine's feats are also miles ahead of Luke. All the evidence points to DE Palpatine>>>>>>>DE Luke.
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Yeah, I edited my post. However, she doesn't actually join with him yet (as we see shortly afterwards). She doesn't realize what to do until after the duel. If anything, it's more of a teaching moment with her reminding Luke that the force connects everything.
Last edited by ares834 on Aug 13th, 2017 at 04:51 PM
I think it's pretty unclear considering the situation in the audiobook and the comics. You have a point considering Leia view herself as a third party during their duel and later when she tells Luke "Let me add my power to yours", which can be interpretated that she didn't before. In the comics she confirms she joined Luke against Palpatine.
The audio supports her Force bonding with him as well. Whereas lending her powers to Luke does not preclude her being surprised at him winning, nor being able to track their fighting. Weak argument.
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Last edited by Beniboybling on Aug 13th, 2017 at 06:42 PM
It does. Vima-Da-Booda says she was using Battle Meditation to aid her brother in defeating the Emperor. I imagine that's what it is referring to, given what they do afterwards is a Force Bond/Harmony thing.
By the way, there's a potentially good feat for Ood Bnar to add for his respect thread Wollf: He apparently shields a sappling from his sacrifical explosion and potentially infuses it with part of his life energy/power.