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These false ideas on the internet, e.g. Fascists are left wing.

Why do trolls propagate such easily checked stupidity?


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The most obvious reason is to make your opponent(s) look bad. Though mind you, left-wing ideologies are perfectly capable of being fascist.


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I agree that it would be moronic to say that all left-wing people are Fascist, however it would also be moronic to say no left-wing people are Fascist.

The same goes for the right wing.


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I agree that it would be moronic to say that all left-wing people are Fascist, however it would also be moronic to say no left-wing people are Fascist.

The same goes for the right wing.

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this game some people like to play where they associate literally everything bad with the opposing political wing and dissociate everything bad from their own political wing is both intellectually dishonest and childish.


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this game some people like to play where they associate literally everything bad with the opposing political wing and dissociate everything bad from their own political wing is both intellectually dishonest and childish.
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I agree that it would be moronic to say that all left-wing people are Fascist, however it would also be moronic to say no left-wing people are Fascist.

The same goes for the right wing.


Bingo, and the better question is why do so many on the left have no concept of what actual fascism is? We see this displayed with 100% certainty whenever they say this country is run by fascists or Trump is a fascist, etc.

Why trolls spew that propaganda? I can't say.


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Fascism extols rabid nationalism and fascist regimes generally have very close relationships with private industry (link, link). How is that even remotely left-wing?

That said, some of those on the left can certainly be called authoritarian, and it would be moronic to deny that those people exist, but authoritarianism is not fascism. Extreme nationalism, which is at the centre of all fascist regimes and organisations, is totally at odds with the left's (particularly the far-left's) pursuit of internationalism and multiculturalism.

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Fascism extols rabid nationalism and fascist regimes generally have very close relationships with private industry (link, link). How is that even remotely left-wing?

That said, some of those on the left can certainly be called authoritarian, and it would be moronic to deny that those people exist, but authoritarianism is not fascism. Extreme nationalism, which is at the centre of all fascist regimes and organisations, is totally at odds with the left's (particularly the far-left's) pursuit of internationalism and multiculturalism.


There is this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_fascism

But yeah, some on the left definitely exhibit fascist-like traits. Like when they think they have the right to prevent you from going to see someone speak because they do not like your views. Some think they have the right to physically block you from that.

Even more hilarious is a lot of the folks screaming the loudest about fascism are...communist shitheads. Like Antifa. A fun game to play is to ask a communist which countries communism has worked for and then ask how many people communism killed in comparison to nazis and stuff like that. They most likely will not actually answer you lol.


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There is this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_fascism
Well, yeah. But that's clearly an oxymoron. Some leftists may have some features that we see in fascists (authoritarianism), but the main defining characteristic of fascism (rabid nationalism) is totally at odds with the left's tendency towards internationalism. I suppose I get what you mean, but it just sounds wrong.

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But yeah, some on the left definitely exhibit fascist-like traits. Like when they think they have the right to prevent you from going to see someone speak because they do not like your views.
Well, that just makes them authoritarian. Unless they exhibit nationalism, then it is wrong to call them fascists. They're authoritarian-leftists, who certainly have the potential as loathsome and dangerous as fascists, but differ in their motivations and core beliefs.

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And authoritarians whining about fascism are still hilarious and clueless as hell lol.


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Bingo, and the better question is why do so many on the left have no concept of what actual fascism is? We see this displayed with 100% certainty whenever they say this country is run by fascists or Trump is a fascist, etc.

Why trolls spew that propaganda? I can't say.


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The funny part, above it's noted that the reason is 'to makes your opponent look bad' and here he goes responding with "But Leftist!!1!" rants and we're still on page one.


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The funny part, above it's noted that the reason is 'to makes your opponent look bad' and here he goes responding with "But Leftist!!1!" rants and we're still on page one.


I bet this thread doesn't get beyond page 1 shifty


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I bet this thread doesn't get beyond page 1 shifty


Willing to put a Wager on that?


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Some thoughts on this subject.


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Willing to put a Wager on that?
No shifty


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No shifty


Wimp.


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Yes, but you are English so you can't really help it.


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The funny part, above it's noted that the reason is 'to makes your opponent look bad' and here he goes responding with "But Leftist!!1!" rants and we're still on page one.


I don't need to make them look bad, they do it to themselves smile


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