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Question Star Wars Rebels - Season 4, Heroes of Mandalore [Discussion]

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I finished episode one of two so far. God awful.

Watching episode two now and am finding myself hate it even more.

How Filoni could make an episode of Mandalorians so terrible is beyond me.


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Some one explain to me how a eleven year old (Sabine) created this super-weapon doomsday device that one-shots all Mandalorians on sight that no other Mandalorian could create?

I'm just not buying it. Not at all.

Also, god damn, I never remembered Bo Katan being so unreasonably annoying.


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I'd take Season One of TCW over this.


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It was...eh...it might have been better if Sabine's mother/brother actually ya know...died, but of course not. The action was...eh. Also some 'warrior' culture they are, when Sabine's dad seems very tame and meek. A Legends Mando wouldn't put up with that shit and would stomp his teeth in.


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I'd take Season One of TCW over this.


So it's a standard Rebels episode then?

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So it's a standard Rebels episode then?


Putting it one way, probably less.


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Canon sucks. Any Kanan feats?


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Canon sucks. Any Kanan feats?


Nothing new really.


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It was...eh...it might have been better if Sabine's mother/brother actually ya know...died, but of course not.


Totally killed the emotional impact of the first episode ending. An underwhelming start to the final season, par for the course.

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Totally killed the emotional impact of the first episode ending. An underwhelming start to the final season, par for the course.


Yeah, there's probably gonna be a few small gems within the season, but not enough if any of the other seasons are indications. I kinda face scrunched at some of the S4 trailer soo...yeah..


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Watched the first part. No idea why there's such strong dislike here. The episode was fine. Nice action sequences, decent dialogue, and a well placed twist at the end that raised the stakes and opened the possibility for some character exploration of who, at this point is this show's weakest character and badly needs it.

It's not on par with the openers of the other seasons, but that's fine as rebels opnenrs have always been extremely good. The question is whether they can conistently produce episodes of this quality.

Perhaps the second episode will explain the reaction here.

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5 seconds in and now I understand the pessimism.

Wow.

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My major complaints:

- Sabine being capable of creating a weapon that other Mandalorians cannot in her pre-teen years. I can't feel for her struggle given it's so unbelievably difficult to actually believe.

- Ezra's and Kanan's utter irrelevance; Ezra being pure comedic humor. What happened to the dark-side Ezra that was hinted at?

- Sabine's mother and brother conveniently being the only ones who survive the doomsday device. That's the ultimate expression of PIS.

- Bo-Katan. I never really liked her, but her constant mood-swings is cringe-inducing. Also, why were they trying to make Sabine giving her the darksaber as emotional? It's ****ing not.

- Mandalorians. Their portrayal doesn't make any sense. They seem more like heroic rebels slightly more capable than a stormtrooper than brutally-trained warriors ready to kill on command.

Likes:

- The episode finished.


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5 seconds in and now I understand the pessimism.

Wow.
thumb up They ruined a plotline that could've been really emotionally compelling.

At the end of the first episode when I thought Sabine's mom and brother actually died I literally said out loud, "Holy shit," because I was really surprised and impressed that Rebels went in that direction. But of course, something that interesting would've been too good to be true.


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Also, why were they trying to make Sabine giving her the darksaber as emotional? It's ****ing not.
Eh, IIRC in Season 3 they kind of made a big deal about the darksaber because of its symbolic weight as a uniter of clans and extremely long history, as well as the implications about the strength of the person who wields it, so I could understand why it was being made a big deal.


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Yea, the episode was still a very good one. Some nice symbolism with the armor, a great character moment for Sabine who's been strengthened as a character throughout this arc, very good action sequences, and a nice ending.

That said, this is still flawed and in many ways shows hwo this show constantly wastes it's own potential.
While this was a solid story, it could have been so much more powerful if Disney didn't feel the need to backtrack.

Having Tristan and Sabine's mother die would have provided an opportunity for us to see Sabine really suffer. And it's something she could have overcome the course of a season in stead of two singular episodes. Instead though, the personal conflict here has been fully expended when it could have been expanded on.

We see another example of this when Disney doesn't have the imperial mandalorian die when he's shocked by his superior. Again, needlessly reducing the power of their scenes.

Also, I don't like how the jedi are potrayed, especially Ezra. Why did Ezra come off as way more capable at the start of season 3 then he is now? Isn't Ezra supposed tobe growing more powerful? Becoming stronger?

So why is he still potrayed as comedic relief combatively?

On a bright note, Thrawn was killing it as he usually does. Him lecturing the mando on art was great sh!t.

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@KJ: Sure, but Bo-Katan doesn't really create an emotional response. If she was giving it to a developed character, then sure, the move would have significance, but Bo-Katan was just introduced in Rebels (meaning half the audience just learned about her five seconds prior), and in TCW, she has little characterization. Sabine could have given the Darksaber to a random Mandalorian and it would elicit the same response for me.


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My major complaints:

- Mandalorians. Their portrayal doesn't make any sense. They seem more like heroic rebels slightly more capable than a stormtrooper than brutally-trained warriors ready to kill on command.


Legends Mandos would be ashamed and then proceed to kick their asses.


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Likes:

- The episode finished.



Rofl.


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