Says the guy that tried to downplay Cap punching through the glass of a highly advanced sub by calling it a toy-sub.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Comics and Fiction ALWAYS have contradictions in science. You act as this shit has happened in real life and that there are no contradictions.
Amazons were meant to be above human. Otherwise, they couldn't even be able to begin to brace that stone wall nor be immortal. Spider-Man of all characters can be hurt by almost anything that can hurt a comic human (bullets, knives, punches to the throat, etc).
You are extremely biased because you said that they were Olympic level. Instead of just arguing that their low superhuman strength is irrelevant anyway. That is phucking ridiculous.
Per Howard Stark it was a highly advanced sub, you calling it a toy was just an obvious attempt to low-ball the feat. like you always do.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Doesn't change the fact that you were calling it a toy in an attempt to low-ball the feat.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Except Cap consistently operates at way higher levels than these other guys. How often do you see one of them hold a helicopter from lifting off or tear a log with their bare hands or punch a submarine window.
As for me being biased towards Marvel, guess you missed all those times I backed up a DC character over a Marvel one huh? Like Deathstroke over Cap, Superman over regular Thor, Steppenwolf over Hulk, etc.
But I guess since you're so heavily biased towards DC, you'd only notice me when I go up against DC.
Cap has what 5 movies? And amazons, what 2? He's not consistently anything.
Holding a helicopter is less than 5 tons.
Ripping a log, again is less than 5 tons
Punching the submarine window is unquantifiable.
So even with those feats, Cap doesn't operate way higher.
I'm biased towards speed and skill. I will vote for any character, regardless of the company, if they have those in trumps. I always put Fox QS ahead of anyone (including all Flashes).
I seriously hope you never get into a street fight. Because you'd then realize that speed and skill is not the only things that will factor in a fight.
As for claiming these feats are less than 5 tons... everybody here knows that you invent numbers and formulas at random. Nobody takes your numbers seriously. The amazons have no feats that consistently put them in Cap's league. Only an idiot would think otherwise.
A portable vehicle could be made of lightweight materials.
Basically the feat is unquantifiable, unless you use Cap's upper end punching power in other feats to determine the durability of the glass.
Where? What about them screams that they were intended to be physically superior to man? They were superior in general because of their nobility and duty to the Gods but that's it. Again, their entire origin revolves about them being ENSLAVED in bronze age chains.
You keep harping on them failing to hold up a block of stone that was supported by two wooden beams for like 2.5 seconds and act like they're superhuman when 2 minutes later an Amazon was crushed to death and stuck from a knocked over horse....
I think them Olympic level is VERY fair. They were are incredibly acrobatic and stronger than the average woman. What about that is unfair or biased? If you put an Amazon against depowered Thor from the first movie, he'd beat the shit out of an Amazon and their would be no stat disadvantage. Based on that, I would not place them as flat out superhuman. Maybe enhanced. But only enhanced by real life standards, not comic book standards where Black Widow, a non-enhanced is ridiculous compared to real life standards.
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If you put two depowered Thors under that stone door they would be crushed flat with no resistance. That stone slab was the weight of an empty city bus. Olympic level my foot.
Antiope was one-shotting Deutchlanders with her strikes. Average women can not do that. 6 amazons were slowing Steppenwolf down. Do you honestly believe 6 shot-putters can slow down a guy that can casually perform a 2,640 foot broad jump? (I seriously want you to answer this)
Yeah, I'm sure Steppenwolf's attack that killed the horse (a 1 ton animal) and made it land on her had nothing to do with her not getting up.
Your headcanon and theories about their enslavement mean little in the face of on screen feats.
I do not think I am saying anything crazy here. The multi-ton range is, at least to me, more than 1 but less than 4. That is consistent with 2 amazons being able to momentarily support a 10.5 ton slab before giving out. Captain America is around a 5-6 tonner imo for comparison.
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