As far as I know, no-one quoted in the book has accused it of being untrue or of mis-quoting them. Except for Trump obviously. In fact people have admitted they did say those things.
I think thats pretty significant. I'm sure the Trump team must be furiously contacting people to deny the book statements and that if they things were untrue they would be mercilessly doing so. That it stands more or less unchallenged is a testimont to its credibility imo.
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No, Rocky's right. It's a laughable deflection. The actions of Obama have literally zero bearing on the conversation at hand. He isn't President. Trump is. And preventing the release of classified information that could put America's national security in jeopardy is not even remotely comparable to the President himself trying to block a book simply because it was critical of him. Can you even imagine how bad of a precedent would be set if he was successful in not only doing that, but also "opening up the libel laws", which he has expressed support for before and reiterated in his recent speech? If you're peddling Obama-Trump false equivalences, then you're abetting a dangerous man setting a precedent which could allow him and even more dangerous men to shut down critical press, and put democracy itself at risk.
And on the topic of whistleblowing and government surveillance, Trump has called the likes of Chelsea Manning a 'traitor', whilst Obama commuted her, and also called for Edward Snowden to be killed. Furthermore, Trump has expressed support for increased powers for intelligence services, including allowing them to torture 'even if it doesn't work', and he constantly demonises the press. Obama may have crossed some lines, but the idea Trump is even remotely better in the realm of press freedom and liberty in general, is snortworthy. He just hasn't been faced with the same intelligence-based scandals that Obama faced. And when he does, his words and actions would suggest a draconian approach that would make Obama look like a child.
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Yes it's shitty, but him pursuing legal action via lawyers within the current paradigm of policy is =different from him actually changing policy to lash out at criticism.
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True, but his end intention is to change policy, as he has said publicly on several occasions. And regardless, when a public figure acts in this way, they are shifting the Overton window in a way which could aid Trump or an aspiring tyrant to change the laws in the future. Deflection and apologia aren't appropriate here.
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Yeah I'm not disagreeing it's shitty, I'm just not sounding the alarm bells as I would if it were an actual policy change.
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Lol and uh, our own intelligence agencies said that too, about the WMD's at least.
Awesome, dipshits will stop trusting BS spewed about Trump from them, correct?
Just kidding, we both know they won't. And even the fact this author has been called out in the past for making shit up? Pshh, something something Trump something something.
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I seem to have read the article more thoroughly you did.. Not once did Obama, "stifle communication." What Obama did was take action against those who would release classified info that could possibly undermine the security of the country.
I'm pretty sure that's something presidents are supposed to do, though maybe Trump disagrees given his active support for things like wiki leaks.
Your false equivalency remains laughable.
I take it you didn't actually read Snowdragon's article?
No, you actually agreed with Lazy Bones' false equivalency and mischaracterization of the events described by his article, and took no issue with him deflecting to Obama as an excuse for Trump's actions. Hence the emoji.
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