Beating non LoebForce Rulk isn't impressive at all, especially since it was stated on panel that he could have actually won if he used his energy absorption powers. He would have lost to Sue if she wanted to kill him and all she was doing was forcing the air out of his lungs. "I swear, I'll drown you if you dont' stop" was her exact quote. Skirn didn't need to breathe and proved it when Quicksilver tried to create a vacuum around her and force the air from her lungs. Going by ON PANEL showings, which is what I'm after, Angrir was easily the least impressive of the Worthy.
Oh yes, it was idiotic since he had already thrown it multiple times and was just fine. Two things to consider:
1) Strange was there mystically binding him while Surfer/Namor/Lyra She Hulk were physically restraining him allowing Loa to disintegrate his arm which he grew back anyway.
2) It was at the point in the story when the Serpent was calling his Worthy to him to begin his final assault. They mistook it as him retreating.
I just think Nerkkod was/is criminally underrated. He literally treated Silver Surfer as an insect not worth his attention. IMHO, he had better showings than Serpent ONLY Kuurth.
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Cytorak stated he gave Colossus more power than he ever gave Cain. This is fact. Colossus stated on panel that Kuurth was more fast and powerful than he was. So a more powerful Juggernaut was still not as strong as a serpent only Cain. This imo means Kuurth was very powerful even without the juggernaut enhancement. I believe Colossus also stated he had never been hit as hard as Kuurth hit him, and that was Jugged up. Kuurth is the most powerful of the Worthy. Off panel stuff is a joke
Stilt mentioned this too. Where was it stated on panel? I want to check it out. I respect your opinion on Serpent ONLY Kuurth's power level but no way is he more powerful than Nul. Nul crushed his own hammer, he could just as easily have crushed Kuurth's hammer and depowered him right there and then.
But that's the thing, they WEREN'T getting casually owned. The only two that got taken down were Kuurth and Skirn. Kuurth faced off against Mighty Wolverine and we never saw Kuurth on panel again. In Kuurth's defense we never saw Mighty Wolverine on panel again either, till after the Serpent was defeated. Skirn was tag teamed by Mighty Strange and Mighty Iron Fist. That's hardly a low showing.
Nerkkod got hit by Mighty Red She Hulk but wasn't KOed at all. He was fighting right up till the Serpent died and he lost his hammer. In fact, it looks like Nerrkod was facing off against Mighty Spider-Man (with Mighty Strange running into the fray in the background). IF anything we DON'T see Mighty Red She Hulk again until a few pages later after both the Serpent and THor were dead.
Mokk was facing off against Mighty Ms Marvel.
Greithoth was facing off against Captain America wielding Mjolnir.
I can't help it. As sh|tty as that event was, I loved their character design. Diggin' that "Tron" look they were rocking.
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Using this line of reasoning is interesting. So you guys are arguing that BOTH the Serpent's Hammer AND the Host determine the overall power of the Worthy?
The Hosts (with no Serpent powers) in order of MOST to LEAST powerful -
Tier 1
Absorbing Man (ridiculous absorption powers with few limits)
Hulk (Marvel's elite CL100 brick)
Tier 2
Thing (solid high meta with an excellent record Vs top tiers)
Titania (excellent physical stats but jobs)
Attuma (good strength, Cl40-75 depending if on land or water, suspect durability known jobber)
Tier 3
Gray Gargoyle (low superhuman physical stats, CL10, with a powerful 'Stone Touch' ability, he can actually kill the Tier 2 guys if he gets his stone touch attack in first)
Tier 4
Cain Marko (without the Juggernaut enchantment he's just a muscular human male)
You guys agree with list?
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Vic for sure was exaggerating the physical amp because when push came to shove and he faced an opponent without his minions holding them down or energy weapons he was killed almost instantly. Notice he soften Hulk up with an energy attack before punching him away.
Meanwhile Namor was going up against Hyperion, Power Princess, Dr Specrtrum, their speedster (forgot her name), and tooled them till Hyperion beheaded him with Heat Vision. He just flings Power Princess aside like a nuisance meanwhile she attacked him from behind : (please log in to view the image)
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But like I said, nothing on panel backs this up. Was he ever shown flying even? I mean only the 'breathe on land' part seems to be legit.
EDIT : even the air breathing is suspect (please log in to view the image)(please log in to view the image)
look at him here trying to rape Jean Grey while she was imprisoned by him in a glass sphere filled with air (so she could breathe). This is waaaaaaaaaay before Doom rezzed him.
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Last edited by zopzop on Jan 27th, 2018 at 07:42 PM
LOL. But seriously, were there any examples of Attuma flying after his rez by Doom? If not, that will be the final nail in coffin regarding Doom's boast.
I thought we were........we were friends?
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Don't recall any. "Made Men" was a one-shot, one of the many Dark Reign tie-ins.
He seemed to navigate underwater fine enough to trap the Hulk inside some mythical monster... but what happens underwater can easily be seen as "super-swimming".
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