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Originally posted by h1a8
Post the showing. I want to see Thor trying to resist the push. Although Loki was in a significantly greater mechanical Advantage over Thor.


https://youtu.be/f7cjpeRuNQc

0:44 Loki slams Thor onto railings and then bodily hurls him down. Like I said, Loki manhandled Thor.


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0:44 Loki slams Thor onto railings and then bodily hurls him down. Like I said, Loki manhandled Thor.
looks like a mechanical maneuver (skill more than strength). But I’ll give you it. I think Cage could do the exact same thing in that position.


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Loki didn't judo-flip Thor or use his momentum against him. Of course, there is going to be skill involved since I don't think anyone here believes Loki can match Thor in pure strength. Still, the ability for Loki to manhandle Thor like that without using any intricate maneuver proves he's at least somewhere within Thor's strength range.

As for Cage being able to do the same to Thor... maybe, maybe not.


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Nah, Loki is stronger; he fought on par with Thor and bitchslapped Cap in Germany, above Cages pay grade as far as strength goes


Uhhh i forgot that!! Then yes, i agree. Loki wins.


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Originally posted by FrothByte
Loki didn't judo-flip Thor or use his momentum against him. Of course, there is going to be skill involved since I don't think anyone here believes Loki can match Thor in pure strength. Still, the ability for Loki to manhandle Thor like that without using any intricate maneuver proves he's at least somewhere within Thor's strength range.

As for Cage being able to do the same to Thor... maybe, maybe not.


Luke doesn't have the skill needed to ever be in a position to try.


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Originally posted by FrothByte
Loki didn't judo-flip Thor or use his momentum against him. Of course, there is going to be skill involved since I don't think anyone here believes Loki can match Thor in pure strength. Still, the ability for Loki to manhandle Thor like that without using any intricate maneuver proves he's at least somewhere within Thor's strength range.

As for Cage being able to do the same to Thor... maybe, maybe not.


Wrong. Loki had a mechanical advantage over Thor. It wasn't a direct comparison of strength. Also Loki used a circular motion (creates more torque) and mechanical advantage.

Cage has the strength to do the exact same thing. You would be deluded to think otherwise.


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Wrong. Loki had a mechanical advantage over Thor. It wasn't a direct comparison of strength. Also Loki used a circular motion (creates more torque) and mechanical advantage.

Cage has the strength to do the exact same thing. You would be deluded to think otherwise.


Prove it, show Luke doing something similar to someone in Thor's strength class.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong. Loki had a mechanical advantage over Thor. It wasn't a direct comparison of strength. Also Loki used a circular motion (creates more torque) and mechanical advantage.

Cage has the strength to do the exact same thing. You would be deluded to think otherwise.


Dude, everyone here knows that you're completely dumb when it comes to fighting techniques, so don't even try.

Of course there was technique involved, Loki isn't as strong as Thor and wouldn't be able to overpower him in a straight up tug-of-war. But the leverage of body mechanics involved weren't that much and it would not have worked had Loki not been within Thor's strength class.

I mean, you go ahead and try to smash a heavyweight wrestler's face against some railing by simply grabbing them by the nape. Put as much torque as you want, as long as they're resisting, you'll realize how stupid you'll look.


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Prove it, show Luke doing something similar to someone in Thor's strength class.
It's takes a fraction of Thor's strength to achieve that. 2nd Cage casually bent a metal handgun.


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It's takes a fraction of Thor's strength to achieve that. 2nd Cage casually bent a metal handgun.


What an idiotic statement. So what? Cap is superhumanly strong as well, and a much more skilled fighter than Cage, plus he's got an indestructible shield. None of this gave Loki much trouble.


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It's takes a fraction of Thor's strength to achieve that. 2nd Cage casually bent a metal handgun.


Prove the strength needed to bend a metal handgun is enough to replicate Loki's feat.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by h1a8
It's takes a fraction of Thor's strength to achieve that. 2nd Cage casually bent a metal handgun.


A fraction of Thor's strength to do what? Bend a metal handgun or manhandle Thor?


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What an idiotic statement. So what? Cap is superhumanly strong as well, and a much more skilled fighter than Cage, plus he's got an indestructible shield. None of this gave Loki much trouble.


plus Cap has proven to be stronger than Cage on screen.

I honestly forgot the park scene in Avangers 1. Loki certainly wins then.


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What an idiotic statement. So what? Cap is superhumanly strong as well, and a much more skilled fighter than Cage, plus he's got an indestructible shield. None of this gave Loki much trouble.


Cage is stronger than Cap. Significantly so.


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Prove the strength needed to bend a metal handgun is enough to replicate Loki's feat.


It takes less than 2 tons of strength to replicate Loki's feat. Cage's feat shows strength above 50 tons (feat is beyond 10 tons and casual means he can apply 5x more force).


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plus Cap has proven to be stronger than Cage on screen.

I honestly forgot the park scene in Avangers 1. Loki certainly wins then.
Cage is proven significantly stronger than Cap on screen m


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Cage is proven significantly stronger than Cap on screen m


No.

This has been debated several times, Cap wins.


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It takes less than 2 tons of strength to replicate Loki's feat. Cage's feat shows strength above 50 tons (feat is beyond 10 tons and casual means he can apply 5x more force).


Prove that it takes less than 2 tons to replicate Loki's feat.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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It takes less than 2 tons of strength to replicate Loki's feat. Cage's feat shows strength above 50 tons (feat is beyond 10 tons and casual means he can apply 5x more force).


What feat? I'd like to see how you came up with these numbers.


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What feat? I'd like to see how you came up with these numbers.


He pulls it out off his ass then licks it shiny and presents it to the world.


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