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Difference is, my argument against his is a sure thing. I'm not going to derail a CaV for my own agenda. Once they're done, I'll have an entire thread ready to debunk more than just that. You however have no such leeway, you solidifying their arguments only makes Bane worse off in the long run. Ventress >>> Bane is going to be a certainty.
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So me solidifying arguments in Bane’s favor somehow strengthens some weird notion that’s Ventress scales above Bane? Last I checked none of these arguments Az is making are contingent on Ventress scaling above Bane any more than Ant’s arguments for Kun’s power are contingent on Malak scaling above Kun.
We’re both doing the same thing here in regards to accepting wank for our characters while disagreeing with the other argument they’ll apply to use that wank for their characters benefit... I don’t see where you draw the distinction.
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My question to you is simple, are you going to actually argue for Bane's power being much closer to later Banite Sith than they would ever even entertain?
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AP thinks it's OK for him to separate the Revan >> Exar part of Revan - Exar scaling from Exar's feats, but that it's not OK for dmb to separate the Sidious's apprentices >> Bane part of Sidious - Bane scaling from Bane's feats?
That makes no sense lmfao.
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The Banite scaling has blatant statements that each successor got stronger. Why it's contested is beyond me.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Maybe Skere Kaan>Darth Bane? Ever thought about that?
Could be why Bane never challenged Kaan to a duel. :P He was afraid of getting pwned like a b**ch.
Aside note: Kaan didn't suddenly bend the most Sith Lords to his will. He was passively Force influencing them. Even Qordis and Kopecz were able to resist his passive influence.
When you passively influence others, your actions are not registered as a threat. Of course it also depends of the Force user's awareness.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Seems legit as to why he went full Palpatine mode with the thought bomb instead of facing him in direct combat. IIRC, Kaan seemed to be an embodiment of the dark side to Darth Bane. And it wasn't due to the corruptive effects because Kaan's body was still in great health. Possible that this was what Bane thought about Kaan when he percieved him as if he were the embodiment of the dark side.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Kaan was afraid of Darth Bane. Nothing new. He lost his $hit. It isn't the only time when that happens in Star Wars. Kaan was always surrendered by his bros and being the center of attention. It was natural for him to fear Bane because someone dared to defy him and challenge him: he was taken by surprise. Not only that, but he was unable to fully utilize his power because his emotions (fear) hindered his Force abilities. Even Bane says Kaan was anything but not weak. If Bane is really stronger than Kaan, he wouldn't say that to Zannah. So either this or Drew made a retcon regarding Kaan's personal power.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Last edited by Freedon Nadd on Feb 15th, 2018 at 09:02 AM
I like how you only read half of my argument. Either Kaan lost his shit when Bane challenged him and couldn't utilize his entire power because his Force abilities were hindered. You know, just because one is powerful, that does not mean they aren't strong/er. Or Drew retconned the whole aspect of power about Skere Kaan. If Kaan was weaker than Bane, it wouldn't make sense for Bane to tell Zannah that Kaan was anything but not weak, especially when Bane had the notion that the entire Brotherhood of Darkness is made up of 'weaklings'. And this statement comes from Darth Bane who had more Force mastery than his PoD self.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
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I like how you actually keep getting more retarded the longer you are on KMC.
It's been stated multiple times Bane is more powerful, greater in combat, more imposing, etc. The fact that Bane thought Kaan was also powerful means jacksh!t; Yoda thought Dooku was powerful but would walk over him.
Valkorion says Vaylin is powerful; guess that means Vaylin is > Valkorion.
What? This is the guy who viewed the entire Brotherhood of Darkness as weaklings. WEAKLINGS
Whether this means jack$hit to you or not, it doesn't exclude the fact that Bane stated that much. Bane isn't just a statement guy, when he makes a statement, he certainly does it because he is impressed(for him power speaks for itself) And Bane is hardly impressed because he values inner power above all.
Yoda never said Dooku is weak in the Force. And in Yoda's case: his statement was before he faced him in combat whereas Bane stated that line after he 'faced' Skere Kaan.
Valkorion never lowballed Vaylin's power.
Yeah. lol
If I am retarded, what is Az, then?
So it's either:
1. Kaan's abilities were hindered by his fear
2. Kaan's level of power has been retconned
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Last edited by Freedon Nadd on Feb 15th, 2018 at 08:00 PM