Hey bern bro, how many people would you estimate make up Trumps base?
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Ben Sasse was the most critical calling it a "leftist administration" Dont see why leftists think thats a bad thing.
Sen Lee said "huge job-killing tax hike."
Sen Cornen "My reaction is I'm going to study exactly what the President did,"
Sen. Pat Roberts "They've already done this on washing machines and solar panels and the sorghum producer, one of the rare crops where we were making a profit, got targeted by China"
Now him beating Hilary is even more impressive considering he did it only with a base of like 4 people.
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Yeah I'm seriously not a fan of this. I don't like protectionist policy, I'm more of a free trade kinda guy, and Trump doesn't understand how trade works.
This is retarded, and I'm not gonna suck Trump's dick on this just cuz "**** the left"
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Last edited by Emperordmb on Mar 2nd, 2018 at 08:34 PM
Well sure, getting countries like China and India to open up their markets would be highly beneficial for the US. However, if Trump wanted to get those countries to play fair, then he should have just kept the TPP which would have given the US great leverage as leader of a massive trading bloc, and also eliminated about 18,000 tariffs on American goods with members of the pact. The fact that the Trump administration left the deal so abruptly makes me doubt that they think in the long term when it comes to trade policy, and this tariff-centered approach risks a trade war without guaranteed results that other countries will clean up their act.
Of course, I would be happy to be proven wrong here, but I'm not exactly optimistic that these tariffs were some sort of 4D chess for greater free trade, considering the Trump administration's previous signals on the subject. In that case, they're just an unnecessary burden on American consumers, and strain foreign relations.
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When Goldman Sachs is being cited by the New York Times as an opponent, it's hard to side against it.
Tariffs may very well be bad for the general public, but I doubt anyone chiming in is talking about us. No, they only care about the 1%..
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Then I realized what we have isn't free trade. It's a gestalt made out of corporatism, regulatory capture, and old fashioned corruption.
From that point of view, anything that gets those assholes complaining is fine with me. Tariff the crap out of them.
The general public is going to suffer anyways, as we always have, so make them eat it for a change.
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Except they won't 'eat it'. The costs will just be passed onto the consumers. And tariffs are a form of corporatism as they protect uncompetitive industries from competition and insulate them from the need to change. So some of those 'assholes' will suffer, but another group of assholes will be benefiting, at the expense of the ordinary consumer.
I wouldn't call making shoes in Chinese sweatshops where labor is cheap and human rights laws lax as "competition", though. That's exploitation.
It's also a fact many companies lie about their overhead, and hoard a lot of money (Even after cutting their checks.)
Honestly, I'd be all about free trade if it meant what Rand said it did.. But it doesn't. Our version means businesses exist strictly to make their investors rich. The courts enforce this. If every business in America could cut 100% of their labor costs, they would, and would pretty much have to.
Imports, off shoring, exploitation overseas are all part that...
It's a mess, and I sure can't even begin to address it.. I'm also not really a "burn it all down" socialist. I just know enough to see the "social Darwinist" and "Commie pinko's" are talking into the wind, and big business does what big business does. Which is fleece and hoard, exploit and capture crony politicians and regulatory agencies.. Nickle and dime, any way you could, at any expense.
So yeah, you're probably right. In the end, there's only so far they can pass costs onto us, before no one can afford to pay for it, and then they won't be profiting off us anyways..
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