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Darth Sidious (RotJ) vs. SoR Revan (Sabers)
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Revan doesn't have any feats or scaling to suggest he could essentially blitz Maul.


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We've got the fact he scales laughably from the likes of Leneer and Satele and essentially every ****er in the entire TOR era, except for like Vaylin, Valk and Outlander.


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We do? Pretty sure I just saw Satele caving off a piece of Revan's head, sans his uber immortality. There can't be that much of a difference in their speed.


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We do? Pretty sure I just saw Satele caving off a piece of Revan's head, sans his uber immortality. There can't be that much of a difference in their speed.


Revan was fast enough to fight the Hero of Tython (above Shan), Darth Marr (equal to Shan), Satele Shan, Lana Beniko, and an assload of gunslingers with grenades, blasters, rockets, etc. simultaneously. Even if you don't recognize the game-mechanics, it's apparent in the dialogue files:

"He is strong with the Force! . . . I will see you break! . . . It is over for you, Revan!"
Source: Darth Marr, Star Wars The Old Republic - Shadow of Revan

"Grant me strength! . . . Revan, don't be a fool! . . . Press the attack!"
Source: Satele Shan, Star Wars The Old Republic - Shadow of Revan

"The Force is my servant! . . . Be strong! . . . So much power!"
Source: Lana Beniko, Star Wars The Old Republic - Shadow of Revan

"Tough sucker! . . . Have some more! . . . Love a good scrap!"
Source: Shae Vizla , Star Wars The Old Republic - Shadow of Revan

"Don't let up! . . . I won't let you win, Revan! . . . Let's go, people!"
Source: Theron Shan, Star Wars The Old Republic - Shadow of Revan

"Make him bleed! . . . Get him, Jakarro! . . . Hit him with everything!"
Source: C2-D4, Star Wars The Old Republic - Shadow of Revan

-- that's even despite The Old Republic having non-Force sensitives always move as fast as Force users.


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(That's not to say he can speedblitz Maul, which he can't. I'm just addressing the idea Shan and Revan are equal speed.)


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@Ant: Sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it. No can do I'm afraid.

Revan doesn't need to be capable of wtfblitzing Satele in order to put up a fight against that team, especially given his vaunted durability, Force power, teleportation etc. And since we are using a gameplay snippet from a trailer as canon evidence, then Satele successfully cut Revan's face in a one versus one fight.

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(That's not to say he can speedblitz Maul, which he can't. I'm just addressing the idea Shan and Revan are equal speed.)
Well I'm certainly glad you agree.


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Revan doesn't need to be capable of wtfblitzing Satele in order to put up a fight against that team.

When on Earth did I claim that, lmfao?

I just claimed Revan's obviously faster, unless you think Revan's Force powers alone purely compensate for constant barrages of Jedi Temple walkway-destroying missiles, XS stock light freighter fire, grenades, other explosives, blaster fire, Force lightning, etc., while also dueling the others.


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When on Earth did I claim that, lmfao?

I just claimed Revan's obviously faster, unless you think Revan's Force powers alone purely compensate for constant barrages of missiles that destroy Jedi Temple walkways, aerial fire from smuggler ships, tons of grenades, explosives, blaster-fire, Force lightning, etc.
I said "there can't be that much (speedblitz) of a difference in speed," and you directly replied to the point with evidence. What exactly did you want to get across?

Anyway, you're the one that posted a gif of Satele having Revan dead to rights.


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Your post never suggested "that much" meant "speedblitz," lawl.

Revan's not really obligated to defend that attack if he can block it anyway. Similar to Darth Bane with orbalisks, it's reasonable to assume Revan's going to devote his powers to other traits, focus on more pressing priorities, and perhaps conserve his power given the other opponents on the battlefield. If this is KotOR / Reborn Revan, it's fair to assume his Star Forge Malak-crushing powers will guide him to blocking that strike.


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Yes it did, because that's the point AP was trying to prove and the one directly replied to. erm


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I interpreted AP's posts different than you, then. wink


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I took that as an unrelated point backing his previous point, rather than in direct response to your point, tbh.

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Open concession to Sheev. I suppose it will have to do. evil face


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Was that another point unrelated to the previous point? smile


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While that would follow the precedent set by you and AP, Sheev can be considered relevant in all discussions, seeing as his majesty is woven into the very essence of Star Wars and dare I say it, KMC itself. smile


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Open concession to Sheev. I suppose it will have to do. evil face


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Meh. Why cannot Revan blitz Maul? Is it because of that 'camera' feat?


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We do? Pretty sure I just saw Satele caving off a piece of Revan's head, sans his uber immortality. There can't be that much of a difference in their speed.


Except there can be and is. Revan's on the defensive here, not the offensive. He's concerned with far more than Satele.

But this is all very far from the point. Sheev's absolutely not winning via augmentation here.


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