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No. REALLY!! The guy tells people to leave His Crappy Country and Sneak into the BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD! Guess which one that is...


Its Official. Mexico is a Shit Hole. They attempt to Self Flush!


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It's certainly correct he didn't use the word shithole.

Why tell people to leave a prosperous non-shithole country though? Like in your mind...what is the reason?

Why is leaving Mexico a "human right"? Is it cuz it's a shithole and people should have the right to leave? That's my interpretation.

But I'm very curious to see how you interpreted it.


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It's certainly correct he didn't use the word shithole.

Why tell people to leave a prosperous non-shithole country though? Like in your mind...what is the reason?

Why is leaving Mexico a "human right"? Is it cuz it's a shithole and people should have the right to leave? That's my interpretation.

But I'm very curious to see how you interpreted it.

From what I understand it's a human right to leave, well, any country, but it's also not a human right to violate another country's borders.


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No no justification. I'm just saying its interesting how countries evolve and how people change over time, in a hundred years from now do you think people will care about Mexico? No, why because people would have mixed so much that fight for the right for who owns this land or who owns that land. Even now the English we use is changing, we know more Spanish then ever before. What is a taco? What is an empanada? We use more Spanish then ever before.

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It's certainly correct he didn't use the word shithole.

Why tell people to leave a prosperous non-shithole country though? Like in your mind...what is the reason?

Why is leaving Mexico a "human right"? Is it cuz it's a shithole and people should have the right to leave? That's my interpretation.

But I'm very curious to see how you interpreted it.

He's not telling people to leave the country.

He is condemning the treatment of detained immigrants in the U.S., and advocating for better treatment of immigrants throughout the American continents, and everywhere else, for that matter. He's asking for host countries for a show of empathy for those exercising their human right to leave behind whatever hardships they faced their homelands to survive and prosper elsewhere.

It's a positive message.


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He's not telling people to leave the country.

He is condemning the treatment of detained immigrants in the U.S., and advocating for better treatment of immigrants throughout the American continents, and everywhere else, for that matter. He's asking for host countries for a show of empathy for those exercising their human right to leave behind whatever hardships they faced their homelands to survive and prosper elsewhere.

It's a positive message.


Yes he is.

"And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world," Obrador said on Tuesday while calling on people to "leave their towns and find a life in the United States."

Anything else?


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It's certainly correct he didn't use the word shithole.

Why tell people to leave a prosperous non-shithole country though? Like in your mind...what is the reason?

Why is leaving Mexico a "human right"? Is it cuz it's a shithole and people should have the right to leave? That's my interpretation.

But I'm very curious to see how you interpreted it.



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I'm still confused how "leave and find a life in the United States" isn't telling people to leave.


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I'm still confused how "leave and find a life in the United States" isn't telling people to leave.

I'll explain after work.


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Don't bother. I think you're projecting, no offense.

There is absolutely no way he's not downplaying the standards of living of his own country.


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Don't bother. I think you're projecting, no offense.

There is absolutely no way he's not downplaying the standards of living of his own country.

Projecting?


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Projecting?


Well, nothing he said implies more then what he said.

You can argue he had a deeper message, but the fact is you really don't want to hint that the country your running isn't really worth staying in. It sends a bad message.


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Well, nothing he said implies more then what he said.

You can argue he had a deeper message, but the fact is you really don't want to hint that the country your running isn't really worth staying in. It sends a bad message.


The only way I can see this being spun is for someone to try to say the guy didn't really want people to leave...he just wanted to draw attention to how shitty Mexico is.

But nah, you can do that in other ways besides "leave". He told them to leave. I'd love to see how they are going to spin this.


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This post is taking me a lot longer to complete than I thought. I'll post it when it's ready though. I've got to get some sleep in before it's time to go back to work again, and I still have to go drop off my ballot.


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Does it have anything to do with trying to excuse it via "he was trying to draw attention to how shitty this place is" ?


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Probably more that is harder for him to string enough shitpost
threads together to make his narrative NOT look like the big LIE it really is.


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Does it have anything to do with trying to excuse it via "he was trying to draw attention to how shitty this place is" ?

No, because he isn't telling people to mass migrate out of Mexico and into the U.S., nor is he painting Mexico as either a shithole or a utopia. I should be able to wrap it up after work tonight.


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Probably more that is harder for him to string enough shitpost
threads together to make his narrative NOT look like the big LIE it really is.

This, coming from you? Priceless. laughing out loud


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I'm expecting some houdini level shit to go down here.


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I'm expecting some houdini level shit to go down here.

laughing out loud

I'm not writing a book about it. Just something I think would better clarify his position. He's not encouraging a mass exodus and telling people to leave Mexico. Fly's article is foaming at the mouth retarded for no reason.


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