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Hela vs. General Zod
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Silent Master
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Originally posted by h1a8
It's not about what I want. I gave the conclusion to both scenarios. If OP would have created the thread with either scenario then my conclusions would be the same.


Explain how neutral ground means ground where only one side is powered up.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Explain how neutral ground means ground where only one side is powered up.
In the last several posts, I'm not arguing the interpretation of the op. I'm just giving the conclusion of the fight to each possible setting.
If you believe the op has the setting in a certain way then I provided a conclusion for that. Just to be clear
Setting 1:
Has effect of being on Asgard and Earth at the same time.
Conclusion 1: Zod can't win

Setting 2:
Has the effect of being on Earth but outside of Asgard.
Conclusion 2: Zod wins

Setting 3:
Has neither effect of being on Asgard and on a Earth.
Hela wins (Zod would be powerless).

Choose the setting that you believe is the case and then use my conclusion. If you disagree with the conclusion of that setting then you are free to debate it. If you agree then the discussion is over.


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Originally posted by h1a8
Setting 1:
Has effect of being on Asgard and Earth at the same time.
Conclusion 1: Zod can't win

Setting 2:
Has the effect of being on Earth but outside of Asgard.
Conclusion 2: Zod wins

Setting 3:
Has neither effect of being on Asgard and on a Earth.
Hela wins (Zod would be powerless).



Translation:

Setting 1:
If Hela are allowed her “feats”, then Zod can’t win.

Setting 2:
Since I (h1) won’t accept any of Hela’s “feats”, then a “featless” Hela can’t win.

Setting 3:
If the conditions I want for Hela are applied to Zod FAIRLY, then Zod gets stomped like an ant.

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Originally posted by Nibedicus
Translation:

Setting 1:
If Hela are allowed her “feats”, then Zod can’t win.

Setting 2:
Since I (h1) won’t accept any of Hela’s “feats”, then a “featless” Hela can’t win.

Setting 3:
If the conditions I want for Hela are applied to Zod FAIRLY, then Zod gets stomped like an ant.

You can troll all you want, it doesn't change the conclusions to those settings.


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You can troll all you want, it doesn't change the conclusions to those settings.


Explain in detail how what he posted was trolling.


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posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Explain in detail how what he posted was trolling.


It does not attempt to debate who wins in this thread.


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It does not attempt to debate who wins in this thread.


It directly addresses your statements. So unless you're claiming your statements have nothing to do with the debate, it's not trolling.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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You can troll all you want, it doesn't change the conclusions to those settings.


So you’re not even gonna deny your tactics?

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It does not attempt to debate who wins in this thread.


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WTF are you talking about. It is LITERALLY a statement on who you think wins the debate based on your arguments. Get back on your meds dammit.

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So you’re not even gonna deny your tactics?

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WTF are you talking about. It is LITERALLY a statement on who you think wins the debate based on your arguments. Get back on your meds dammit.


Prove it. What conclusion do you disagree with?


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Prove it. What conclusion do you disagree with?


Reading comprehension? Where in my post did I agree/disagree? I merely clarified your tactics so it could be plain for everyone to see.

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Reading comprehension? Where in my post did I agree/disagree? I merely clarified your tactics so it could be plain for everyone to see.


How can I be implementing tactics when I give a conclusion to each scenario. Everyone does this. You do not address others.

If the fight is A then character X wins
But if the fight is B then character Y wins.


Where is the tactic?


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How can I be implementing tactics when I give a conclusion to each scenario. Everyone does this. You do not address others.

If the fight is A then character X wins
But if the fight is B then character Y wins.


Where is the tactic?


What a dumb question to ask. Your conclusions were come upon using the tactics you used duh.

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Originally posted by Nibedicus
Translation:

Setting 1:
If Hela are allowed her “feats”, then Zod can’t win.

Setting 2:
Since I (h1) won’t accept any of Hela’s “feats”, then a “featless” Hela can’t win.

Setting 3:
If the conditions I want for Hela are applied to Zod FAIRLY, then Zod gets stomped like an ant.

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What a dumb question to ask. Your conclusions were come upon using the tactics you used duh.


So do you believe that Hela, outside of Asgard, could beat a Zod that has his powers as he would on earth?


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So do you believe that Hela, outside of Asgard, could beat a Zod that has his powers as he would on earth?


Soooo, reading comprehension or are you just trying to unsuccesfully bait?

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Hela wins.


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Soooo, reading comprehension or are you just trying to unsuccesfully bait?

You believe that Hela is equally as powerful on Asgard as she is when she is off. That's what this boils down to.


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Thor believed that even if they left Asgard, Hela would still hunt them down and beat them, so either:

1) Any power Hela receives from Asgard is permanent.

2) Even without the power up, Hela is still more powerful than the Revengers combined.

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Thor believed that even if they left Asgard, Hela would still hunt them down and beat them, so either:

1) Any power Hela receives from Asgard is permanent.

2) Even without the power up, Hela is still more powerful than the Revengers combined.
Revengers? What?

Hela is not powerless outside of Asgard so 1) doesn't follow.
2) doesn't make any sense due to the word "revengers"


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You believe that Hela is equally as powerful on Asgard as she is when she is off. That's what this boils down to.


Post where I wrote the above or you owe me an apology, little liarman.

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Originally posted by Nibedicus
Post where I wrote the above or you owe me an apology, little liarman.
You are implying that by suggesting that Hela's feats ON Asgard transfers 100% to if she was outside of Asgard.


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