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When everyone is a troll what happens to the old trolls.

Personally, I think Franklin wins.


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Old Post Feb 10th, 2019 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Galan007
Or is it possible that maybe...just maybe...the Celestials weren't attacking the F4 with 'full power' blasts, because they didn't harbor ill-will toward any of them aside from Reed, and therefore weren't trying to kill them initially? I thought it was pretty obvious when the Celestials gave Sue the chance to move away from Reed, instead of just attacking/killing them both without hesitation:
https://i.imgur.com/FxLgesX.jpg

I mean, surely we're not trying to pretend like the blasts Thing, Johnny, and Sue survived were equal in power to the blasts that were harming Galactus and Franklin..?




You mean the "mad" celestials weren't actually mad and showed restraint against Sue who was actually damaging them? So much that three celestials attacked her?

It really doesn't matters what I think but this blatant inserting of your views of how the comic should happen to what actually happened is really annoying.


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Old Post Feb 10th, 2019 12:40 PM
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They DID show restraint. Look at the scan I posted, ffs. They could have easily attacked/killed Reed and Sue, but gave Sue the chance to walk away first.

They gave Doom the same opportunity:
https://i.imgur.com/HRDyhIu.jpg


Don't start getting salty just because I'm bringing up valid points that conflict with these preconceived, static bubbles you seem place everyone in.


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Old Post Feb 10th, 2019 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Galan007
They DID show restraint. Look at the scan I posted, ffs. They could have easily attacked/killed Reed and Sue, but gave Sue the chance to walk away first.

They gave Doom the same opportunity:
https://i.imgur.com/HRDyhIu.jpg


Don't start getting salty just because I'm bringing up valid points that conflict with these preconceived, static bubbles you seem place everyone in.

Giving ultimatum to someone is now showing restrain apparently.

How lucky for Sue to have three celestials showing restrain here at once.

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Giving ultimatum to someone is now showing restrain apparently.
Umm, obviously?

As mentioned, the Celestials could have just attacked/killed Sue(and Doom) without hesitation, but they DIDN'T. They gave each of them the change to "move aside and live" first, because they didn't harbor any ill-will toward anyone but Reed(and/or those they deemed to be legitimate threats to their existence, like Galactus and Franklin.)

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How lucky for Sue to have three celestials showing restrain here at once.

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So the logical conclusion, iyo, is that the Celestials *must* have been using 'full power' blasts against the F4, right? Those blasts *must* have been equal to the blasts they used against Franklin and Galactus, right? Good lord.

For a point of reference, here's what happens when the Mad Celestials don't show restraint against 'lesser beings':
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*But note that even in the Council of Reeds' case, the Celestials showed restraint initially and gave them a chance to live. Hence: "Kneel and gain favor/forgiveness."


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Susan Storm has better shields than I thought, thanks Abhi for pointing it out thumb up


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yeah, his conclusions have been pretty spot on in these threads of late. your own conclusion is faulty though. according to abhi and zop, those celestials are<<planetary level. you know, they are all basically mid heralds. so sue's shields aren't as strong as you might have thought. thumb up

also: giving an ultimatum is showing restraint?? blink

what in the honest to gawd f*** kind of question is that?!? if you're not showing restraint you....don't ask the question. no expression

personally, i think galan has been showing some universal levels of restraint in allowing some of this nonsense to continue. thumb up

and yes, i'm aware that is a lot of emjois in one post. thumb up


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Originally posted by Galan007
Umm, obviously?


To you perhaps?
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As mentioned, the Celestials could have just attacked/killed Sue(and Doom) without hesitation, but they DIDN'T. They gave each of them the change to "move aside and live" first, because they didn't harbor any ill-will toward anyone but Reed(and/or those they deemed to be legitimate threats to their existence, like Galactus and Franklin.)


And Sue was protecting Franklin at that moment.
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So the logical conclusion, iyo, is that the Celestials *must* have been using 'full power' blasts against the F4, right? Those blasts *must* have been equal to the blasts they used against Franklin and Galactus, right? Good lord.


If that's what Hickman wrote, that's what he wrote. Whine to him.
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For a point of reference, here's what happens when the Mad Celestials don't show restraint against 'lesser beings':
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*But note that even in the Council of Reeds' case, the Celestials showed restraint initially and gave them a chance to live. Hence: "Kneel and gain favor/forgiveness."


Right, except the scan where they killed Sue. Oh wait, they didn't.


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Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, his conclusions have been pretty spot on in these threads of late. your own conclusion is faulty though. according to abhi and zop, those celestials are<<planetary level. you know, they are all basically mid heralds. so sue's shields aren't as strong as you might have thought. thumb up

also: giving an ultimatum is showing restraint?? blink

what in the honest to gawd f*** kind of question is that?!? if you're not showing restraint you....don't ask the question. no expression

personally, i think galan has been showing some universal levels of restraint in allowing some of this nonsense to continue. thumb up

and yes, i'm aware that is a lot of emjois in one post. thumb up

laughing out loud

Keep your whining to yourself, will you?


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Potentially yes. But all of Oa? Not really.
Why not?

He's massively stronger than them.


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Why not?

He's massively stronger than them.

Not really.


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Are the celestial really all that though? Weren't the Avenders hanging with Celestials who killed all other celestials?


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Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Keep your whining to yourself, will you?


stop running away from your own conclusions. mid heralds have broken sue's sue's shields so, based on the 'evidence' you've been relying on, the mad celestials are somewhere in the herald tier, yes?


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stop running away from your own conclusions. mid heralds have broken sue's sue's shields so, based on the 'evidence' you've been relying on, the mad celestials are somewhere in the herald tier, yes?

No


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Really? So how do you explain their inability to break dues shield? Why didn’t they vaporize Ben? You’ve clearly intimated that they weren’t joking back against them so.... how do you explain those showings?


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A high showing for the duo or low showings for the celestials. Although, celestials have a tendency to struggle with Earth heroes.


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Ok so you’ve been deliberately using low showings to support your stance. You find this practice acceptable?


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Jesus there are some times you really realise that Leo is a dad laughing out loud


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leo is going to turn this car around pretty soon.


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laughing out loud eff you both.


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