While their shootings are more than likely not politically motivated the VAST majority of shootings are from "gangbangers." Politically motived shootings get far more hype but realistically are such a small threat its ridiculous to even present them statistically.
I could see the point about incels, since many tend to be "basement dwelling neck beards" that fancy themselves libertarians.
Libertarians are most definitely anti-Trump, in my experience.
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*Areas are overwhelmingly Democrats
*Gang activity in those ares is overwhelmingly local by local residents
You have a very difficult point to prove. If you'd like to prove that gangsters are even a simple majority Trumpers, be my guest.
Do you have any evidence that gangsters are weirdly opposite of their fellow residents? Do you have evidence that bad guys are a simple majority pro-Trump?
Not so fast with the strawman goalpost moving, my friend.
Not talking about voting, talking about being Trumpers or Democrats.
And I've proven that they are overwhelmingly Democrats. My job is done. It is now up to you to prove your assumption which is gangsters are significantly different from the places that they live. Meaning, you wish to prove that they are statistical outliers and do not show up in the data at the view I am presenting.
And I'm ready for you to make that case. Please present your evidence for your assumption. Where is it?
Why is there even a debate trying to pigeonhole Gang Bangers into the left or right?
I mean, personally, I'd take the very bigoted stance that a gang of minorities certainly wouldn't be pro Trump, much less pro Republican, because, come on.
Why would any group of young, angry minorities (Notwithstanding notable exceptions) back a party or person associated with old white guys who support the KKK and child molesting priests? (Or so the perception of the Cons goes)
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You use a heat map to prove your point. A heat map based on polling data.
So apparently you can use actual voting records but when I do it that's somehow moving the goalposts.
So let's use data.
30% of gang members are not old enough to vote.
Between black and Latino populations in the 2016 election there was an approximately 53% turn out of eligible voters.
So 53% of your remaining 70% is 37.1%
So even if gangsters 100% mirror the population and 100% of those that voted, voted Democrat, that's still not a majority of gang members voting Democrat.
That's before we eliminate which % of those gang members are in prison or have felonies making even more of them ineligible to vote.
But hey, they "feel" Democrat... according to you and based on nothing.
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Holy shit people really seem to wanna do anything they can to try to say it is the right doing most of the shootings in this country. Sad, but wrong. Deal with it.
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Because some people seem to be under the impression the right commits a majority of gun violence. DDM slapped down this notion with facts and fee fee's were impacted.
I'm so sorry this is happening to them.
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Yup, you moved the goalposts. Why does no one learn that trying to use strawman or goalpost moves on me, never work? You'd think someone like you would have leaned that after over a decade.
Anyway, the point was never "voting Democrat." You are trying to force the conversation to an absolute population measure of voter turnout among minority gang members: not gonna fly. That was never the argument and I'm not stupid enough to move the conversation that direction just so you can be right.
Robtard's original point:
Which is overwhelmingly true. Gangsters doing gang things are overwhelmingly Democrats or vote Democrat at the polls, according to the heat maps.
Which is not true.
Almost all gang violence is committed by people who identify as Democrats. Heat maps show that gangs live in Democrat-covens in major cities.
Ahahahaha, weeeeee! And it gets worse! Minority violent felons, upon release, register Democrat even more than the average!
It's like...I can't even tailor make my points more excellent to directly prove you wrong. It's just right all there...stating Jaden is wrong.
"This gangster is likely a Democrat or will vote Democrat when they go to the polls" is a true statement. It can be worded even more strongly, "This gangster is very likely to be a Democrat or vote Democrat at the polls."
Here's a recap:
Robtard mocks the notion that Gangster are leftists/Democrats.
But it's true in an overwhelmingly majority of cases.
You chime in with goalpost moving, a couple of strawman, and "doubt trolling."
But you didn't know you were wrong even with your "doubt trolling."
And this is the crux of it. Heat maps are derived from voting statistics.
You used them. So I'm not moving the goalposts.
When I use them to show you're wrong suddenly it's about feelings and not about statistics.
So if we're going to take your "62% of felons register as democrats" then we need complimentary statistics.
1. What % of felons register to vote? Your statistic.said 1/3. So you're already in a minority of felons as democrats which defeats your own argument.
2. What % of felons are gangsters? (Couldn't find stats because I'm drunk)
3. What % of felons are black or Latino? (It's 59%)
So even with only 2 qualifiers were down to just over 1/6th of black or Latino gangsters registering as Democrats.
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