Ok,or even the same. And no, we don't. Because we have no idea on the future versions - this is a consistent forum logic.
Are they the same? No idea. Otherwise, you might as well assume alt. Universe characters are all the same until proven otherwise - Injustice Superman is the same as Earth 1 until proven otherwise, and all his feats (pushing Mogo, the Guardians etc into the Sun etc ) are the same as if canon Superman did theM.
DCeased Superman is exactly the same.
Even Red Son Supeman. He moved ' ten times faster than thought' when going up against a GL (Hal, no less). Up until he crash landed in the USSR, EVERYTHING in the Red Son universe was the same.
We don't give each other their feats, even when not shown explicitly.
TOBA is a 616 version of the Hulk. He isn't from an alternate universe like Injustice Superman. He's shares the very same past as Immortal Hulk who was vomit stricken by the Abomination meat puppet. It only becomes an alternate future because Hulk somehow chooses to walk the path of complete destruction. Tell you what, why don't you jump on over to the TOAA vs TOBA thread and attempt to invalidate it.
He says: 'convenient when Celestials bleed energy'. Not 'these Celestials' or any specifics attached.
So yes, all Celestials in all realities.
In another thread, I am arguing that yes it's an alternate Surfer and thus...... different. Proof can also be seen in Thanos' words, that Young Thanos has NEVER met a guy like this before.
Iow, different.
Sorry Hulkster, you're not nearly as clever as you try to make out.
Edit: you've removed the Surfer reference. Now why would that be?
But as said, Celestials bleed energy. It is common across all Celestials - no defining specifications were given.
It's like saying humans bleed haemoglobin- then you saying actually, we don't know if Flashpoint Thomas Wayne bleeds like Bruce Wayne. Because alt. human.
Therefore, Thomas Wayne is immune to Magneto's powers.
Of Course, your first answer is milarky.. Nothing quantitative is given one way or the other and his targets are alternate Celestials. His frame of reference is his native universe and the Reed who would most know about 616 Celestials is unfamiliar with any such attack.
You referenced alternate Celestials to low-ball 616 Celestials.
And it's not about bleeding energy. Antimonitor bleeds energy. Every similar type being bleeds energy. It's his reference to effectiveness. That's based on alts.
Ure comparing real life humans to Celestials. Bro... For one theyre comicbook characters. Second they are pretty up there in the enigmatic scale as comicbook beings go. Saying this before u go comparing comic humans to Celestials... Im just affording them the same conditions as far as alt characters go. I wouldnt mind if u say they are roughly the same level as 616 Celestials, but i wouldnt give a straight pass when it comes to specific things like this situation.
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