^Yes, but they should have tried it again. It's not like by splitting light and darkness there ar eno conflicts. Even without the SIth, within the jedi order there were people who did not share the council's view and caused trouble (just think about all those dark jedi and barriss offee)
Also, didn't the Jedi fail specifically because they were too "light side"? And then they did try to balance the Light and the Dark in the NJO, when Luke opened up his academy. He stressed love and compassion over altruism, no?
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Rust, pain, anger, rage are natural emotions to most species. And so are serenity, etc
It creates chaos when someone like The Sith use them for their own benefits.
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Yeah, I always thought of it as Dark Side being something that pushes against the natural will of the Force. As Obi-Wan described, the Force partially controls your actions, but also obeys your commands. A sith tries to make it a tool obedient to the user's will, which is only possible through the dark side emotions.
Just my thoughts.
I do remember when I was browsing the forums a few months back, I stumbled upon a eally old debate, in which Ushgarak was arguing that destroying the Sith is bringing back the jedi. Now, I remember that even that argument was never comprehensive of every source, but it's the closest thing I've seen on the internet to a complete compilation of all arguments for and against the "destroying the sith = balance in the Force" idea. I was trying to find it, I couldn't. I thought it might have been in the "Star Wars: Episode IV, V & VI" forum, too.
What "Balance" means has never been really clear and prone to retcons. In episode 3 Lucas stated in the DVD commentary outright that destroying the Sith leads to balance. He stated in another interview that the Sith and the Dark side were a "cancer" to the Force and there was no "Light side" the way the Jedi used the Force was the Force in it's natural state and it's not supposed to be divided in half.
This was retconned with Mortis and by Lucas himself with the Introruction of the Family on Mortis, where the dark is a natural part of the Force and there is Light and even Balance having representation. Anakin has to balance both sides but we all know what happens after.
There is as of yet afaik nothing that reconciles the Ones with the Siths destruction being what brings balance. My headcanon is whenever the Sith caused the Force to go out of balance, this led to the Fathers death becoming a faster process and the Son becoming stronger. The "cancer" to the Force is the Sith themselves rather than the dark side.
Seems Anakin did bring back balance but as others said only temporarily but this is a plot hole tbh. If Palpatine never died or anything, how was the Force brought back into balance? Makes no sense, I think if they were going to bring back Palpatine they should have taken a page from Freedon Nadd and Ommins relationship. Snoke, in this case Ommin, brings back Palpatines spirit which caused the Force to go out of balance.
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I guess the question now is how long did that balance last? Was it until there was an "awakening"? Even though we still don't know what that even means. Was it until Palpatine started his plans? Was it when the Dyad was created? I doubt Disney'll explore it further, but what do you think?
The novelization confirms that Palpatine never really died. He transferred his essence into the clone vessel on Exegol while his original body was still hurling down the Death Star reactor shaft.
You could have still argued that this brought 'balance' in a sense(a 1:1 ratio would still level the scales)... IF Luke and Palpatine would have been the only Jedi and Sith left in the galaxy.
But we know that isn't true either, as there were still Force-users running around in the time between RotJ and TFA. So meh. /shrug
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Let's work with them here, though. How could the Force have been brought into balance?
Maybe it has nothing to do with the people that are out there practicing the light and the dark sides? You could argue that when Anakin rid the Galaxy of the influence of the Empire and therefore the Sith, he brought maintainable peace to the Force itself. Then, Palpatine rose to power again, making the Dark Side prominent again.
I guess it really just depends how literally you take the statements from the Mortis arc.
Because you could also argue that the eradication of the Empire subsequently tipped the balance heavily toward light side... And per the Father, that could also cause a cataclysmic imbalance.
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Balance just doesn't make sense in all honesty lol. I guess you could argue Palpatine leaving the Unknown regions and removing himself from the Galaxy put the Force in balance but that makes no sense at all.
When TFA came out, I imagined that Snokes goal was to disrupt the Balance that Anakin made for his own purposes and the Awakening of Force sensitives across the Galaxy was the Forces respond to him. You could tweak this with Palpatine, the big problem is he never died so yeah.
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