Why resisting Nihilus's Force Drain by simply being more Powerful Won't Work...
There have been some misconceptions in the past arguing that Nihilus may not be able to Force Drain someone who is more powerful than he is simply due to superiority. In this thread, I will be going through this and showing why this is not true by drawing on 2 cases: The Dark Reaper events and Abeloth’s fight with Luke/Krayt.
1. The Dark Reaper
The Dark Reaper’s events bring in a lot of evidence that show that Force Drain is not something that you can just resist by simply being a powerful Force user and that you need to learn how to resist it. Note the following dialogue:
The above mentions that the Jedi had to be taught a certain technique to be able to resist the Reaper’s Force Drain effects and notes that ‘Ulic’s Secrets’ were lost, which includes the technique that he taught to resist the effects.
This is further supported again when Anakin meets Ulic. Note the following:
Again, the above dialogue and quote make it very clear that Anakin had to be taught a certain technique by Ulic which then allowed him to harness the Force around him in order to resist the Reaper’s effects. Ulic also talks about the ‘knowledge’ that Anakin seeks further showing that Force Drain cannot simply be resisted regardless of how powerful you may be. You need certain knowledge and technique.
Finally, note the following before Anakin confronts the Reaper:
It is clearly noted that Anakin is the only one who is capable of destroying the Reaper and that anyone else would be killed instantly as Anakin is the only one that is immune. This means that Yoda, Mace and Obi Wan would not be able to stop the Reaper further indicating that resisting Force Drain is something that has to be taught and that simply being a very powerful Force user is irrelevant to being able to resist this type of Drain. Otherwise, Yoda and Mace would have been able to tackle the Reaper. Yet, Anakin is the only one that is capable, despite being inferior to Yoda and Mace, since he is the only one that was taught such knowledge/technique. This makes it very clear that knowledge and technique is required to resist Force Drain.
2. Abeloth’s Fight
The following fight shows that even someone as extremely powerful as Abeloth can be Force Drained, without proper knowledge/technique to resist Force Drain, by someone who is way inferior such as Krayt.
The above describes Krayt as using a ‘Force-draining technique’ with Abeloth beginning to get weaker and weaker as her tentacles being to slow down, she starts to shudder and continues struggling as Krayt seems to get stronger through his Force Drain. Krayt continues to Drain Abeloth for what ‘seemed to continue for days’. Krayt, despite being a clear vast inferior to someone like Abeloth, is able to continually Drain Abeloth despite being in anguish. This clearly shows that being powerful does not mean that you would be able to resist Force Drain even to someone who is way inferior in power. Again, this further shows that knowledge and technique is needed.
As a matter of fact, Krayt even begins Force Draining Luke who is vastly superior to him as well:
Luke being a clear superior to Krayt and yet he is still getting Force Drained by him and a ‘void of cold nothingness’ begins to grow inside Luke and it seemed like they stayed ‘for an eternity’. Luke being a vast superior did not somehow allow him to resist Krayt’s Force Drain which further disproves the idea that Force Drain can somehow be resisted by being a powerful or more powerful Force user than the person applying it.
3. The Force Drain
Finally, I will just be showing, without too much detail, that Nihilus, Krayt and the Dark Reaper all Force Drain in a similar fashion; by absorbing and consuming Force Energy.
Notice the underlined parts where Nihilus, Krayt and the Dark Reaper all sap Force Energies from their victims indicating that a similar Force Draining technique is being used in all cases.
All of the above points make it very clear that being a more powerful Force user than the person applying Force Drain is irrelevant to being able to resist such Drain. Knowledge and technique is required to resist such Drain irrespective of superiority.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
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However, I don't agree that Force energy = Life energy. I think they are different. For example, non-Force sensitives have pretty much no Force energy(very small and hence no significant connect to the Force) and yet they are very alive and well. There is also the normal Life Drain which saps specifically life energies and we have seen it used multiple times through the mythos and yet no one has ever lost their connection to the Force through such Drain (contrary to Kreia who lost her Force powers after Nihilus Force Drained her). Life energy seems to be more internal and within one's body while Force energy seems to be one's connection/energy to the Force itself.
The Force have two aspects to it - Cosmic and Living.
"The Living Force is generated by the energy of living beings throughout the galaxy. This is the Force at its most immediate and instinctive level. It is this aspect of the Force which allows for many of the impressive abilities that fueled the aura of legend around the Jedi and Sith, and that still excites the galaxy's imagination. The ability to trick minds of other beings, to sense their presence, and to manipulate physical objects all come from the Living Force." - Star Wars: Force and Destiny - Core Rulebook
The aforementioned is possible due to Midichlorians which are a part of the biology of every living being in Star Wars and the source of biological life itself (i.e. cell reproduction). Good explanation in the following link: https://www.starwars.com/news/so-wh...-midi-chlorians
Many living beings have a low Midichlorian count but some have a high Midichlorian count which make them "Force-sensitive." Every living being contributes to The Living Force nevertheless.
"Ultimately, all energy from the Living Force passes to the Cosmic Force. This includes not only the energy of the Living Force at a particular point in time, but the energy of all living beings that have every lived in the galaxy. For this reason, Cosmic Force transcends normal conceptions of time and space. In this way, it also connects all things in the galaxy together: not only what is, but what was and is yet to come." - Star Wars: Force and Destiny - Core Rulebook
Force energy = Life energy and more.
Force Drain is a perversion of the aforementioned in that it makes a living being, or even those who are killed, contribute to the WIELDER instead.
Force Drain is a perversion of the original 'sever Force' technique.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Nov 16th, 2020 at 10:11 AM