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Everybody, remember: Hitler, who was a Catholic in good-standing until the time of his death, went to Heaven, because he believed in Jesus. But the 6-million Jews, whom he murdered, went to Hell, because they did not. But everything is just, and works out for the better!

The Lord states that, if you love God, you will follow His commandments.

Hitler had no desire to do so, so it is very likely that he did not love God.

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The Lord states that, if you love God, you will follow His commandments.

Hitler had no desire to do so, so it is very likely that he did not love God.

Irrelevant. Christians are saved by faith alone, not works. So Hitler is in Heaven, and the Jews he murdered are in Hell, because Christianity is a moral and just system!

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Irrelevant. Christians are saved by faith alone, not works. So Hitler is in Heaven, and the Jews he murdered are in Hell, because Christianity is a moral and just system!

I think you didn't understand what I just said.

Of course you can't work your way to Heaven, but if you love God, than you will want a natural desire to do the right thing. This is what that verse means.

If the Jews did not believe in Jesus, than the Bible teaches that they are in Hell yes.

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@victree, I have a question.

What about the Jews who were there with Jesus, practiced what Jesus preached when he was on Earth and don't believe he had risen from the dead or that's he's divine.

Will they go to heaven?

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@victree, I have a question.

What about the Jews who were there with Jesus, practiced what Jesus preached when he was on Earth and don't believe he had risen from the dead or that's he's divine.

Will they go to heaven?

The Bible states that if you love and believe that Jesus is God, then you will go to Heaven. So, even if they never saw or believed that Jesus rose from the dead, I would still think they are in paradise. big grin

Good question by the way.

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The Bible states that if you love and believe that Jesus is God, then you will go to Heaven. So, even if they never saw or believed that Jesus rose from the dead, I would still think they are in paradise.

Good question by the way.

What if they reject Jesus as God?

But live a good life, and practice what Jesus preached.

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What if they reject Jesus as God?

But live a good life, and practice what Jesus preached.

The Bible states that our good deeds are like dirty rags to God. I mean, think about it. If someone infinitely holy judged our good deeds, we would be like gnats in comparison. laughing out loud

If they don't believe that Jesus is God, then they will not get the one way ticket to Heaven, yes.

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Do you see a problem with that?

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Do you see a problem with that?

Do you? If so, why?

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Do you? If so, why?

Because if someone did everything right, except believe in God, they would go to hell.

That tells me God cares more about having his ego stroked, then living a good life.

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Because if someone did everything right, except believe in God, they would go to hell.

That tells me God cares more about having his ego stroked, then living a good life.

That is impossible to do everything right and be perfect.

Here, let me give you an analogy.

Let's say you go to the biggest house in America. You knock on the door and a man opens it. He says. " How are you doing? Can I help you?" Then you say. "I live here now." "What? No you don't." "Yes I do." "What makes you think that you can live here?" "Because I am a good person." "Who cares if you are a good person, I don't know you."

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That is impossible to do everything right and be perfect.

Here, let me give you an analogy.

Let's say you go to the biggest house in America. You knock on the door and a man opens it. He says. " How are you doing? Can I help you?" Then you say. "I live here now." "What? No you don't." "Yes I do." "What makes you think that you can live here?" "Because I am a good person." "Who cares if you are a good person, I don't know you."

I don't think your analogy is relevant at all.

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