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Galan007
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Originally posted by SquallX
Yep, use a low showing for Prime to downplay him.

Prime has had 3 low showings in his post Crisis reintroduction.
1. Not killing Conner and Krypto
2. Losing to the Titans brand to the ending of Post Crisis and beginning of the New 52.
3. Losing to Shazam and Adam.

Know what, I take #3 back. This Shazam if he is still the same Shazam from JL, he was powered up by atelast Trans level being. This. Shazam if they are still the same defeated Yuga Khan of all people by himself.

So congrats.
The showing against Shazam and BA is dubious for reasons I have detailed in other threads.


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Superboy Prime unfortunately doesnt have as much luck with magic lightning sad

https://imgur.com/Vaf3X0S

The main point of this thread is less about who would win and instead highlighting what he would have to resort to in order to actually take her out.

The limits of a brick smile


Calling Superman a limited brick is beneath someone that has as much comic knowledge as you.

And that's a bad example, to be fair.

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This. Didn’t prime go after his writers based in real life? He punches comic reality and goes after Stan lee himself back in the 60’s. He’s a ridiculous character like that.


Yup.


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It's still stupid that he's punching lightning the way he did.

Not Kryptonians, though. Superman. Superman isn't an average Kryptonian. Superman (and his versions) is whatever DC wants him to be. Which means if he (or Prime or Earth 2 or whatever) wanted to, he'd just pull some vibration bullshit or freeze breath trick out of his hat and Kitty would be screwed.
This is a battle board, not DC. NONE of them gets to pull anything out of their hats here so that they are ALLOWED to win for the sake of a story. None of them have writers help here.


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This is a battle board, not DC. NONE of them gets to pull anything out of their hats here so that they are ALLOWED to win for the sake of a story. None of them have writers help here.


None of what you said is relevant to my post at all. Nor does it take in to account what I said 1-2 posts later.


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Calling Superman a limited brick is beneath someone that has as much comic knowledge as you.

And that's a bad example, to be fair.



Yup.


A lack of objectivity is what would be beneath me.

As it stands it doesnt matter if writers have a tendency for making Superboy do increasingly loony things. We cannot take that precedent and then enshrine him in a no limits fallacy. Thats not how it works here.

In the forum we discuss a hypothetical battle between characters considering canon established feats and powerset only whilst removing PIS as a factor. When he does a crazy feat, we discuss said crazy feat. We dont make him unlimited because of your opinion on how far writers are willing to go with him in future unpublished stories. That fallacy is something thats beneath you erm


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This is a battle board, not DC. NONE of them gets to pull anything out of their hats here so that they are ALLOWED to win for the sake of a story. None of them have writers help here.



PREACH!


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But cold affect her right?
And freezing things is always done on an atomic level.


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The showing against Shazam and BA is dubious for reasons I have detailed in other threads.



Like laughing off BA's lightning in Infinite Crisis, or Mordru's magic in Legion of Three Worlds.



When did that awful showing happen?


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Like laughing off BA's lightning in Infinite Crisis, or Mordru's magic in Legion of Three Worlds.



When did that awful showing happen?
it was his return from escaping wherever he was locked up in.

Seems like he was drained.

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Like laughing off BA's lightning in Infinite Crisis, or Mordru's magic in Legion of Three Worlds.



When did that awful showing happen?


He also failed to mention that this Shazam is powered by the Old Gods themselves.

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A lack of objectivity is what would be beneath me.

As it stands it doesnt matter if writers have a tendency for making Superboy do increasingly loony things. We cannot take that precedent and then enshrine him in a no limits fallacy. Thats not how it works here.

In the forum we discuss a hypothetical battle between characters considering canon established feats and powerset only whilst removing PIS as a factor. When he does a crazy feat, we discuss said crazy feat. We dont make him unlimited because of your opinion on how far writers are willing to go with him in future unpublished stories. That fallacy is something thats beneath you erm


I didn't say he's unlimited, though. I said DC has ****ed with the character(s) enough that trying to classify them is pointless. You're trying to shove a square peg in to a round hole.

You're the one that said limited brick, not me, remember?


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I didn't say he's unlimited, though. I said DC has ****ed with the character(s) enough that trying to classify them is pointless. You're trying to shove a square peg in to a round hole.

You're the one that said limited brick, not me, remember?


Regardless of the writers treatment of the character we still have canon, demonstrated feats and exploitable weaknesses to work with so writer lunacy is thankfully a non factor here.

Youve taken my comment about him being a brick completely out of context. In comparison to the kind of characters the more fanatical on here are asserting he's greater than, characters with energy, matter, chronal and reality manipulation at their disposal, SBP is a brick comparatively. There are no two ways about it smile


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Regardless of the writers treatment of the character we still have canon, demonstrated feats and exploitable weaknesses to work with so writer lunacy is thankfully a non factor here.

Youve taken my comment about him being a brick completely out of context. In comparison to the kind of characters the more fanatical on here are asserting he's greater than, characters with energy, matter, chronal and reality manipulation at their disposal, SBP is a brick comparatively. There are no two ways about it smile


It's not a non-factor when it's been introduced in to the comics themselves. That's all I've been trying to say. DC has abandoned any pretense of Superman characters being tough, strong heralds. He's basically a joke character now.

Maybe your context should have been better, then.

But yes, people tend to ignore the more abstract characters when talking about power because threads containing them tend to be pointless.


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So GS was just salty people were voting against his preferred characters.


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So GS was just salty people were voting against his preferred characters.
his arguments got thoroughly dismantled. Instead of admitting defeat or even argue in good faith he decided to flee. Never did answer who wins this thread. Hmmm wonder why.

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