I didn't say the hosts were incels. I said the podcast is incel-adjacent. Andrew Tate isn't an incel either, but he certainly appeals to them.
Yes, which is all that can be said. That's what you're not understanding. The rest is just you making assumptions, or outright making things up like him being fired.
We don't know who is lying because we didn't get to see the case. We don't know what the police found. What don't know what evidence she has. We don't know all the evidence he had.
...Again, we don't know. And we'll likely never know since the dude killed himself.
Due to your bias, you don't understand that we aren't saying the the sister/mother, wife, or husband are wrong or right.
You're calling this neutral viewpoint a "feminazi" stance, which is telling.
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Legend, you were always a shit for brains retard back when the Star Wars Versus forum was still alive, and it seems you have not changed. Any more ground realities to share, you f***ing BUM?
You could have pointed out this issue in a better way but you came up with this:
The fact you're using reactionary, manosphere, Incel-adjacent podcasts like that for "perspective" says all we need to know about your motivations. You had no intention of being unbiased or acting in good faith with that post. ---- [1]
This is TROLLING. You set the wrong tempo from the get go.
There is MORE to this story - you chose to OVERLOOK revelations of HIS daughter. HER revelations provide some background context to this case. HER revelations put the man's second wife in questionable light instead.
You are putting words in my mouth as well. I never said that HE "was" fired. This is my statement in my second post:
How about empathy for the man who was arrested by the cops and put in jail followed by suspension from his job because of the charges filed? It is obvious that these developments took a toll on him.
HE did point out this much in his writing:
“I am on the brink of losing my job, as I am out on administrative leave until my case is ‘resolved,'” he wrote of the case, which court records show he pleaded not guilty to in his Nov. 22 arraignment.
Is there a reason to doubt him? You do not seem to understand how sensitive educational institutions can be when it comes to their representation at the top.
This type of argument is not helpful. You pretend to be neutral but you are showing bias in your judgement as well. The man's daughter came forward and pointed out that her step mom was toxic and ruined their family. Her revelations are "something." A court WILL pay heed to her.
My viewpoint is based on how you chose to address me from the get go. Your statement is marked as [1] for reference above.
Buzzwords = CHECK
Questioning my motive over a piece of content that you seem to disapprove of = CHECK
Feminist(s) talk like this.
Why resort to this stupid blame-game?
Some of you were nowhere in sight when I posted about a Male Murder Suspect Transferred to Women’s Prison in following thread:
Well, no. My response was perfectly appropriate, calling out your transparent, dishonest post made in bad faith. You set the tone with your OP. You can't expect charitableness when you open the thread the way you did.
Again, no. The issue here is whether or not he's guilty of child endangerment and battery. We can't determine that without hearing all the evidence. All of it.
You don't seem to understand how trials work though. We have to hear her side, what the police found too. It's not just the husband. Make sense?
Misdemeanor battery on a spouse or co-habitant can also be filed on "subjective" grounds:
Unlike corporal injury to spouse or co-habitant, domestic battery does not require the victim to have a visible injury and it can only be tried as a misdemeanor.
The system [allows] cops to take a woman's mere account of domestic violence at Face Value and charge a man on both counts as noted above.
Police could easily charge Christensen on both counts, arrest him, and put him in jail for indefinite period until further notice. He spent TWO DAYS in a jail and had to pay a 10,000 USD bond to secure his release from custody.
Orange County Superior Court records confirmed Christensen was arrested on Nov. 15 and released from jail on $10,000 bail two days later. He was charged with child abuse and endangerment and battery. He pleaded not guilty.
Because of these charges filed, his employment as Principal of a school was affected and he feared that he would loose his job.
He wrote that the recent November evening “completely unraveled” his and his wife’s lives. He said he had been placed on administrative leave and was on the brink of losing his job at Newland Elementary as his case made its way through the legal system, which he described as “extremely flawed (especially against men/fathers).” He said his wife had “no intention” of the night escalating the way it did, and “regrets making that call” to the police. She was also “trying to clear my name with little success,” Christensen wrote.
This is a case study of how the life of a decent family-oriented man can be ruined by his own wife in a system that treats a man as "guilty until proven innocent" on a mere complaint.
The wife can call the police and get her husband arrested by accusing him of doing something he never did. While the man is subjected to embarrassing treatment by the Police and a potentially lengthy investigation process, he can loose his job as well and this loss might push him over the edge.
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Why the husband is arrested on a mere complaint from his wife by default in any state? Why the "guilty until proven innocent" rule applies to a man in a matter involving his wife by default?
The Police's initial response should be to push for "amends" between the husband and wife after a complaint is lodged by her. The Police should arrest the husband IF it has reason to assume that he was violent with his wife. Not otherwise.
Dots connected for you.
See above.
You've got to be kidding me? Did I attribute these statements to you by tagging you?
These statements were NOT directed towards you in person.
None of my statements in the original post are directed towards you or any member of the forum in person, but merely talking points about the system being rigged against men which is true. Many men (and women) have said as much.
You attempted to stifle this debate from the get go by accusing me of being dishonest and posting in bad faith. You need to step back from your accusatory position and do some homework for a change.
Wait, I did it for you above. Thanks for nothing.
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Re: Re: Man who jumped to death at Disneyland was principal accused of child endangerment
I busted your nonsense but your ego supersedes your rationality. Take your time to reflect upon RED highlights and Blue highlights. Talk to a lawyer if you are still confused.
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Re: Re: Re: Man who jumped to death at Disneyland was principal accused of child endangerment
You have made it so we can't quote you, probably due to some character you're using. I'm just going to have to speak generally here.
You still don't seem to understand, or are deliberately ignoring, the fact that we don't have all the evidence here. Maybe she lied. Maybe he lied. Maybe they both lied, and he's guilty of one charge but not the other.
The only objective stance we can take here is this: We don't know, because the guy committed suicide before his trial.
Instead of just accepting that, you've elected to say "I may not know what happened, but I do know he's innocent and she's lying."
How is this not computing for you?
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
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Re: Man who jumped to death at Disneyland was principal accused of child endangerment
I TRIED D.E.S.P.E.R.A.T.E.L.Y. to give this thread a chance but then you lost me rigggghhhhtttt about here:
"Education Sector has become Female dominated. Why Male teachers are in decline?
Education Sector employment practices should be investigated."
Wtf is this obviously-misogynistic MANCHILD bullshit? Is the idea of intelligent women too much for you? Is #getbroadsouttheclassroomsandintothekitchens going to be your new motto, Macho Man? You gonna be like "Bytch! Stop educating these kids and go make me a sammich!!!!! You're supposed to know how to clean, cook, and sew! Math and science ARE MANLY MANZAPALOOZA FIELDS ONLY!!!!"
In fact, Male teachers can produce a net-positive impact on the performance of students when hired in large numbers:
We evaluate equity-efficiency trade-offs from admissions quotas by examining effects on output once beneficiaries start producing in the relevant industry. In particular, we document the impact of abolishing a 40% quota for male primary school teachers on their pupils’ long-run outcomes. The quota had advantaged academically lower-scoring male university applicants, and its removal cut the share of men among new teachers by half. We combine this reform with the timing of union-mandated teacher retirements to isolate quasi-random variation in the local share of male quota teachers. Using comprehensive register data, we find that pupils exposed to a higher share of male quota teachers during primary school transition more smoothly to post-compulsory education, have higher educational attainment, and labor force attachment at age 25. Pupils of both genders benefit similarly from exposure to male quota teachers. Our findings are consistent with the quota improving the allocation of talent over the unconstrained selection process.
Schaede, U., & Mankki, V. (2022). Quota vs Quality? Long-Term Gains from an Unusual Gender Quota.
When quota system for hiring Male teachers was in practice in the Finnish education sector, it produced a net-positive impact on the performance of students. Removal of this quota system turned out to be a mistake.
The Education system and environment will affect presence of Male teachers.
"Research has revealed men commonly quit the teaching profession due to gender-centric issues. These range from confusion about physical contact with students and the strain of having to take on masculine roles, to uncertainty about how to develop professional relationships with co-workers."
As noted in the aforementioned link, Social isolation is legitimate problem. How many men are willing to work in a female-dominated educational institute? Not many. I would also like to work in an organization where men are present in large numbers so I can socialize with them and make some friends.
Shortage of Male teachers leads to boys loosing interest in this profession by extension:
Gender differences in teaching career expectations were explored among 15-year-old students in 49 countries participating in the 2015 cycle of the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA). Results revealed that boys were generally less likely than girls to expect to work as teachers, but the magnitude of the gender gap varied across countries. Boys were more likely to expect to work as teachers in countries with a greater representation of male teachers and in countries with higher teacher salaries. In countries with more egalitarian gender beliefs (i.e., beliefs and attitudes toward gender equality), both boys and girls were less likely to expect teaching careers, but this negative association was stronger for boys than for girls.
Han, S. W., Borgonovi, F., & Guerriero, S. (2020). Why don’t more boys want to become teachers? The effect of a gendered profession on students’ career expectations. International Journal of Educational Research, 103, 101645.
Hiring preferences is also a factor but seldom acknowledged in Public discourses. Where I live, Female teachers are in high demand in schools.
Education Sector employment practice in USA is tilted towards Culture Fit in the present.
This makes sense to me.
There are calls for governmental intervention to address the problem of shortage of Male teachers in some countries including in UK and France.
The government would have to look into "Education Sector employment practices" to do something to address the problem of shortage of Male teachers. Finnish Quota system is informative case study in this context. If percentage of Male teachers can be brought up to 40%, this will be an achievement. Good enough in my view.
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