Covering the evidence...

Started by Ushgarak3 pages

Covering the evidence...

As I have mentioned a few times before, it seems that by Ep. II the Jedi have still not dicovered the name 'Sidious' or that this being is the Master of the Sith duo. This is despite the fact that the Viceroys know this formation- heck, a whole ship full of people saw Sidious talk to them in hologram form, who also survive.

On the assumption that the Jedi would have to be EXTREMELY stupid not to have recovered this info (I would have tried every trick in the book to find out about the Sith!), do we assume that Palpatine and co launched an enormous cover-up operation after the battle of Naboo? Other pieces of evidence like Maul's ship and equipment would also have to be dealt with... could this easily be done without anyone being suspicious? The death of the Viceroys would be particularly hard to do...

I doubt that, logic would state that the ship was on Naboo, not Tatooine.

Yes I agree. And I also doubt he landed on a remote place and took his speeder to get to Theed. So it must be there somewhere.

Assumingn that the excerpt from the scripment is right, if they had got the name 'Sidious' they would have known exactly who they were dealing with when the name 'Sido-dyas' came along. Not an imedaite solution, but it is all useful ifno!

That he was the Master was pretty important as well.

Maul's ship is certainly on Naboo! I imagine a fair few people may have seen it land.

Firstly, the name is irrelevant - Sidious / Sido-Dyas / John Smith - he can be called anything - untilll they realise it is Palps they've got nowhere.

The ship - tis now EU teritory!
- I would imagine it was taken by some unscrupulous scrap dealer 😉 - perhaps we will see bits of it in WATTO'S, - maybe 🙂

When there are two Sith and one dies, the one left alive is automatically the Master. That last line by Mace was a bit daft therefore.

Obviously the Jedi did not investigate the Dark Overseer very well. BTW, there was no clue the Sith were involved with the Neimodians to outsiders. No reason why the Jedi would look there.

Maul was seen openly associatingg with the Neimodians; and evem if he wasn't, his presence at the final battle was a bit conincidental, wasn't it?

If it was the master who was killed means they got rid of the most experienced one, if it was the apprentice who got killed means it takes time to train a new one.(actually a case for both scenarios here) Guess they fear a sith master more than his apprentice.

I think that was what Mace meant with his question. The master would leave a weaker Aprentace, thus making it a bit easer for the Jedi. If it's the other way around then they would still have the tougher Master to deal with.

As for Mauls ship or speeder in Watto's shop I wouldnt put it past the prop department. They could explain it by saying that Tattoine and Naboo are close together as shown in TPM.

Close together they may be, but why on Earth would Maul's ship be moved to Tatooine? Besides which I think the most likely scenario is that Sidious got to it first and removed all evidence.

Still, the fact remains that the Jedi could have casually found out that Maul was the apprentice but they do not seem to have done so.

Like I said, Dont put it past the prop dept.

IG88 in Bespin's trash comes to mind along with the small ship from 2001 in Watto's junk pile. Among other easter eggs all over the 4 films.

Just because it dosnt make sence in the SW universe dosnt mean it wont be used. Remember real people work on these things and they have a sence of humor thats used quite often.

Sorry, didn't think you meant it in THAT sense.

I bet the junk dealer who got their hands on Infiltrator bits got rich quick, cloaking devices wouldn't come two to a credit. Am i right in thinking that the canonical currency on Tatooine is Wupiui or whatever that scary shop owner said? Or could that be the equivalent of pence or cents?

Oh I'm sure it's the base currency..but as for how much it would be worth..who knows 😂

Probably more than seven, unless those were some tasty frogs...

i haven't read all the other replies so if i restate something, forgive me. it seems to me that given the highly ilegal nature of the viceroys' and sidious' dealings, precious few, if anyone other than them, would have ever heard a reference to sidious by name. and also, most anyone who may have known his name was disintegrated in the explosion set by anakin. but i think, on an extremely earthly premise, that if the jedi were to go over the business transactions of the viceroys, they would come across payments received that may be traceable to palpatine. what do you guys think?

The ship that was destroyed at the end was NOT the ship everyone was on at the start when the one of the Viceroys said, clearly and distinctly, 'We must contact Lord Sidious', the same man who later said he was sending Darth Maul, his apprentice.

Meanwhile, as you say, accumulated evidence would be large.

Yes, that and the fact that the Viceroys were on Naboo in the throne room when it blew up.

The actor that played Nute Gunray (Silas Carson) will be in EP2. That means that he did not blow up on any ship.

Of course not. He was on the planet. All the Neimodian ships had gone except for the droid control ship.

Just one note, Ush, when exactly were the Neimodians seen openly with Maul? Either I forgot or you are wrong here....

once more, good point ushgarak. i wonder if when the viceroys were take into custody, palpatine may have had them killed in their respective holding place. this would certainly lessen his chances of being linked to sidious, and moreover, sidious' specific existence.