Originally posted by Ushgarak
No it didn't make more than a billion internationally. Only film to do that is Titanic. Internationally, Spiderman made 806 million, which placed it third that year below LOTR and Harry Potter.Return of the King will almost CERTAINLY beat Spiderman- only in the US will Spiderman have done better.
Keep in mind DVD and video sales. Spiderman has made more than a billion. I just looked it up and it says Spiderman has made 806.7 million internationally as of 9/22/02, so it's bound to have made a lot more dough since that time in dvd and video sales.
And it said Lord of the Ring: The Two Towers has made 918.7 million as of 7/24/03.
Originally posted by diegocala
Agreed, everybody will want to see the final film of the LOTR series, Spiderman 2 will not do as well, not that it will not be a good movie, but if you are taking bets 113...I will ask you to put your money where your mouth is and bet me!
And yes i do bet that Spiderman 2 will have a bigger opening weekend(as in friday, saturday, and sunday $ only) than Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers will(also only including friday, saturday, and sunday $ only)
AND it will also make more overall money domestically and internationally.
AND that when the Spiderman trilogy is finished(not to imply that they won't make anymore) it will beat the Lord of the Rings trilogy also.
Lord of the rings will have the fans of the first two eagerly wanting to see the ending. Not just people who saw it at th cinema but people who watched the film on a film channel and enjoyed the film. So the last one will get more people. Also it has an oscar buzz.
Spiderman only advantage is it might have a lower age certificate, its a film just for enjoyment, but people dont care as much wot happens to the guy as much people care about Frodo, strider etc.
Oh i like Legalass, not coz his orlando but coz his legolas, i think viggo does a better acting job and his charcter has more dpth and intreats.
you see spiderman had the GIGANTIC hype before the movie................everyone knows bout spidey so a LOT of people went to see it . Spiderman movie wasn't that great and it made up to this week $403,706,375
Now ROTK may get a LARGE veiwing since everyone WILL want to see the ending. TTT receipts so far is $339,734,454
Also we have to remember the christmas box office is gonna be swamped but using this momentum i am hoping ( as a fanatical lotr fan) that ROTK beats spiderman in the box office and that it gets PJ that lil gold man in Aprili
Originally posted by 113
Keep in mind DVD and video sales. Spiderman has made more than a billion. I just looked it up and it says Spiderman has made 806.7 million internationally as of 9/22/02, so it's bound to have made a lot more dough since that time in dvd and video sales.And it said Lord of the Ring: The Two Towers has made 918.7 million as of 7/24/03.
That's ridiculous. We are talking movie money only here, not movie plus DVD sales. And the LOTR DVDs and videos have been selling like crazy as well. Those figures you quoted are movie receipts ONLY- that was Spiderman's and TTT's box office takings- the TTT DVD was not even out then. The FOTR and Spiderman DVDs were equally popular even in just the US, and FOTR was more popular internationally, so DVD sales will only make your case worse.
Face it- both LOTR movies made more money than Spiderman, both in box office and DVD/video sales. FACT.
Originally posted by 113
And yes i do bet that Spiderman 2 will have a bigger opening weekend(as in friday, saturday, and sunday $ only) than Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers will(also only including friday, saturday, and sunday $ only)AND it will also make more overall money domestically and internationally.
AND that when the Spiderman trilogy is finished(not to imply that they won't make anymore) it will beat the Lord of the Rings trilogy also.
What on Earth makes you think it will make more money internationally when the figures so clearly show the reverse is more likely? It is just not as internationally popular as Potter and LOTR.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
That's ridiculous. We are talking movie money only here, not movie plus DVD sales. And the LOTR DVDs and videos have been selling like crazy as well. Those figures you quoted are movie receipts ONLY- that was Spiderman's and TTT's box office takings- the TTT DVD was not even out then. The FOTR and Spiderman DVDs were equally popular even in just the US, and FOTR was more popular internationally, so DVD sales will only make your case worse.Face it- both LOTR movies made more money than Spiderman, both in box office and DVD/video sales. FACT.
Well if you're talking about domestically no both Lotrs didn;t make as much as Spiderman, I just checked. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers in fact came in below Jurassic park. And the Fellowship is about 5 down from TTT in domestic earnings.
And ok, if you want to count out dvd sales then internationally yes LOTR's did better, and so did the Potters. But in all four of those movies (in the two series combined) more than half their box office came from the international community. In the States Spiderman still owns those two.
And i have the feeling that this second one will be an even greater movie, and their will be those fans who will come back to see it again and again(much like the lotr series). SO i still place my money on Spiderman2.
Originally posted by 113
Well if you're talking about domestically no both Lotrs didn;t make as much as Spiderman, I just checked. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers in fact came in below Jurassic park. And the Fellowship is about 5 down from TTT in domestic earnings.
I am not talking 'domestically'. We are not very interested in the total 'domestic' take on an international board- only one part of a much larger whole. You were, btw, the one who quoted the international figure first, so it is doubly relevant I pointed out you were wrong to make out Spiderman was more popular there, but more to the point I made it VERY VERY clear I was talking internationally in any case, which is the only relevant concern here.
both of these movies will make ass loads of money and one of them are bound to set some new money making records, but you cant count on the fan base to gaurentee how much money a movie will make,look at star wars, return of the jedi made the least money out of the three . no one can say which will win untill they finally come out. Even though in reality ROTK will most likely make more money. Both have gained more fans and even lost some so with all the different factors to incoorperate you just cant tell, untill it happens. Looking at the facts and fan base of the movies ROTK will prolly make more more money though unless it turns out to be another return of the jedi or matrix reloaded
Originally posted by 113
LOTR is trash compared to Spiderman..woohoo!. But that doesn't mean i won't see the third movie. Spidey 2 is supposed to have a lot more action and better action scenes than the first so it won't "suck tacks" it gonna be great
You think Spiderman will have more action then LOTR?
I havent read the books so I dont know whats going to happen in LOTR3 but the fights from 1 and 2 where awsome! And big!