Dooku's Sabre

Started by DJ Velocity3 pages

Dooku's Sabre

I have only just saw the Dooku sabre. I have heard people saying it wouldn't work, and that "piece of metal" would block the beam.

Here are my thoughts:

That "piece of metal" may not be metal, it may be some sort of prism which allows the beam to flare out to a scimitar-style blade. I printed out the handle and drew on the blade and it does look good.

The same part of the sabre also seems as if it can be folded out (similar to a lock knife). Why? I don't know but if you look at the bottom there seems to be a sort of hinge.

Sorry for bringing this old topic back up, but like I said, this is new news to me.

I don't know what the big idea is. First off, is it even confirmed that the saber in the pic is the one used by Dooku? If so, I still don't know what the big deal is. The whole idea of a lightsaber is impossible to begin with. A double-bladed saber is kinda pointless, but it looked cool, and that is the whole idea. Lucas wants to make money from merchadise, so a curved blade is fine by me.

A curved laser beam?

It's not a laser beam. In any event, earlier shots look like he has a straight sabre to me; am I wrong? No matter what the shape of the handle is.

The physics of a curved sabre are only as questionable as those of a normal blade, whose light is thought to arc over at the top (similar style of bending). Yeah, it'll look more obviously dodgy, but the sabre nutters amongst us should have no problem they haven't already encountered. The earlier shots could have been quite misleading, remember, they were only preliminary effects shots and plus, do any of us have any idea what Select photos are trying to tell us anyway? Maybe it wasn't Dooku at all.

Sabres blades aren't made of light... they cast shadows... they are solid...

could you put the link up here for the scan of his saber as i cant find it. Cheers.

http://www.collectstarwars/ep2/dooku_sabre.jpg

Sorry thats...
http://www.collectstarwars.com/ep2/dooku_saber.jpg

I mis-spelled saber

So Ush you say the light saber is not a laser beam? If it`s not a laser beam please tell me what it is then.

No no no fellas

The light saber is made from these special harvested crystals and the colour of the saber depends on the colour of the crystal. The length of the saber determines the refraction of the crystal so you can have any type of grip handle you want as long as the crystal is directly below the out put tube i guess. But then again lucas does like to spin shit and make us go o wow thats awesome, it didnt really work for me when i saw these silly gungans. 😮‍💨

I know the crystal part, but the energy beam has to be called something.

Either way, a light saber is some sort of laser/light beam or a field. As Ush said, the beam is solid as it casts shadows. The blade is also weighted which, again, tells us it is solid. I would not say a lightsabre is impossible (yes with today's technology) but in the future?. I can't see how a curved blade would work though.

That is if one even exists in EP2. Pesonally I don't think GL should **** on with fancy lightsabres anymore. It is starting to make the good old jedi weapon look crap.

The role of crystals in the sabre is EXTRMELY debatable; but suffice to say that all that refraction=length stuff is nonsensical because it's not refracted at all.

The blade is some kind of substance enclosed in a solid field; the substance is presumably extremely good at cutting.

However, we can only make vague extrapolations like that; trying to come up with specifics is near impossible.

But we DO know that:

1. it is not light/laser or anything like that
2. It is solid
3. It does not produce conventional heat
4. Any crystal couldn't be used for focusing because it's not optical
5. The blade is massless yet appears to exert some form of force

Thanks for the support, DJ. We ALSO know the blade is solid because Qui-Gobn was impaled on it. Can't impale someone on a laser beam...

How do we know it is not laser/light or anything like that?

To get back to Dooku's sabre, I reckon a curved handle with a straight beam requires some different handling, since the beam would be angled more at the one who wields the sabre. But it may also be a bit more tricky to fight against, since the curved handle and the angle of the blade to the hands may cause very tricky blows.

It's not laser/light because it's solid. Laser/light cannot be solid. It also gives off a shadow. Light creates shadows, it does not cast them. Qui-Gon was impaled on Maul's sabre. If it was a laser, he would have rather messily fallen through it. As it was, he was able to be supported by it.

The blade is clearly solid, some sort of freaky hi-tech futuristic sci-fi field-contained substance.

Meanwhile, plenty of historical swords have curved handles but straight blades. It's a style thing.

Lightsabres do not cast shadows. Please listen to my reasoning. People base that idea on:

1) ROTJ final duel, sabres casting shadows on the floor as they fought towards the bridge: They didn't have the technology to do clean passes in FX editing back then, hence the shadows stayed.

2) Qui Gon in desert: probably overlooked or deemed unecessary to correct as it's barely visible.

By sensible reasoning, if something cast a shadow, then viewing that thing against the light source would show a silhouette. Watch the battle in the Theed generator room, when the Jedi and Maul are fighting with the energy beam behind them (as Obi Wan gets kicked off onto a lower level), their sabres aren't silhouetted, they are at least as bright as the light source.
People put forward so many dodgy sabre ideas, like the ridiculous notion that the sabre doesn't give out any energy at all unless it hits something. If you can see or hear it, it's giving out energy which you are receiving.

I agree about the field containment idea, the sabres bouncing off eachother, walls etc proves they aren't just light.

I meant that the sabres HAD shadows, which is clear. They even cleaned them up for the special editions. It has always been true that they had shadows and hence are solid.

Well if GL intended them to have shadows, then I'll give up on side-taking in any arguments regarding scientific accuracy in Star Wars now, and brand the idea of lightsabres cool to look at, but upsettingly inaccurate.