Political punk...

So, does anyone here listen to some real traditional anti-establishment punk bands? I'm talking Anti-Flag, Propagandhi, Operation Ivy..etc.etc.

im sick of the political fad, some bands teder on the brink of ruining their music by having heavy anti government and anti establishment lyrics. they need to go back to the 70's, damn hippies. you hate the country you live in so much, just move to canada with all the other mindless haters.

i like rage against the machine, there not a punk band really but they are political, but i don't really like there political views, i like just the music really, but i must agree with backfire, why not move, maybe not nesecerily to canada, but somewhere you'd be happy 🙂

most bands just do it for attention. i actually like a few political bands, but id like them more if they threw away the gimmick.

Originally posted by BackFire349
im sick of the political fad, some bands teder on the brink of ruining their music by having heavy anti government and anti establishment lyrics. they need to go back to the 70's, damn hippies. you hate the country you live in so much, just move to canada with all the other mindless haters.

And move? Why would they do that? They don't sing about hating the country, but certain aspects and/of government. They want the country improved and want to spread their views on things to others, not move from it.

yes i can call it a gimmick, because they are generally relying on there anti government nonsense to get attention. instead of relying on their musical talent like good bands do. plus i just dont care about political mumbo-jumbo, i dont care about some riot that happened 4 years ago in Oregon or something, i dont care about what they think about government, i hate when bands preach about that crap, like they think they're so much smarter then the people running the country, and they think just because they grab a guittarr it gives them some kinda credibility. and actually, id rather have the bubblegum pop punk, because at least tehy arent pretending to have intelegent lyrics.

Mah loves his communist bands, and Justin Timberlake 😛

Backfire, you big 'tard. Their lyrics are enjoyble and entertaining no matter how much you care for their political stance. But the important part, as you say, is that their music is brilliant. IF you don't care for their politics, why don't you just listen to the music?

well real traditional political and anti establishment punk band would be older bands than Anti-Flag, Propagandhi, Operation Ivy they are revival bands.
bands like Sex Pistols, The Exploited, the Clash, U.K. Subs now those where really anti establishment pioneers, and Exploited is known as the most outspoken political trash band. So the revival bands you mention are just picking up the relay pin. Even the hippie movement and the singer songwriters of the 60`s wehre anti establishment and anti government so it has gone on for a while.

oh by the way I listen to The Clash....a lot. London Calling is the record of all time..(JMHO)

I know, finti, I'm just mentioning some of todays political bands, but you're right they're punk-revival bands.
I love The Clash..and Dead Kennedy's.

because their music isnt good in my eyes. i dont like punk in general, however, like i said, i do like some political metal bands, system of a down, rage against the machine, because they do have good music, i just ignore their political mumbo jumbo.

You and everyone else; download Anti-Flag - A New Kind of Army. Your mind WILL change.

will do.

Political Punk sucks my nuts. I'm surrounded by it here in nyc. Some of my friends listen/and listened(past tense) to it and i hated it. SO bad. And i hate all the "original punk bands" too. Suck ass as well. I'm with backfire on this one. I do listen to bands like system of a down, and rage, and i even enjoy some operation ivy, but not for lyrics but just for music. (well Rage is really an exception because they have extroadanary lyrics)

iv'e changed my mind since yesterday actually, i think the gimmick makes a band more unique and intresting, asometimes i may not agre with them, but some points are worth listening too, rage agianst the machine are a great mucicaly tight band, i mean were, and i still prefer them to audioslave because, rage had somthing more.... soul!

Originally posted by BackFire349
im sick of the political fad, some bands teder on the brink of ruining their music by having heavy anti government and anti establishment lyrics. they need to go back to the 70's, damn hippies. you hate the country you live in so much, just move to canada with all the other mindless haters.

I'm with Backfire on this. 😛

a particular song by Anti-Flag is "911 For Peace" just check that song out and you'll see what mah is talking about. BIG CHANGE.

downloaded anti-flag - a new kinda army. and first let me begin by saying that i am a man who has no problem addmitting when im wrong, and this is one of the occasions when i was right. anti flag sound liek every other pop-punk band out there. i cant even understand their lyrics because they give themselves that stupid generic punk accent thats all whiney. generic at best. keep in mind that im not judging their lyrics since i cant understand them, i heard 'nation' a few times and the word 'fight' a few times. but musically they are nothing special.

Pah, that's because you don't like punk. They're one of the leading punk-revival bands, and for a good reason.

And again let me state this; they're not singing "we hate *insert country*, **** *insert leader*" They sing about problems, about cases, about their views on matters. I CANNOT see how this is any more of a gimmick than any given lyrics. They choose to sing about their views on society, that's all; you may not agree, but it's no more gimmicky than anything else.

yeah there generely is a basis of truth behind political music i mean punk isn't the only political music genre, i know i'm going on but rage against the machine and clawfinger are rap metal bands, and they are very political Hendrix although people won't admit it was political, a protest against the vietnameese war, so generely the ones that make it into popularity like rage against the machine, are there coz there worth listening too. It may not be right but it's worth listening too.