Greedo

This is a VERY strange point you are making, Yerssot. The Jedi are unquestionable good guys; GL designed them as such. Why do you insist on creating grey areas that do not exist?

Besides, they all die. No edge there.

Yes, the Jedis are good, no doubts there but what I'm trying to say is that even the good guys must show remorse for killing something, even a droid, wich like the battledroids, resembles very closely a human/alien being.

No, because they are smart enough to realise that no matter how human they seem, they are not alive in any true sense of the world.

they are not alive in any true sense of the world.
explain please what is the true sense for you

AH, that somewhat indefinable quality of sentience? Not to be found in basic terminal droids without free will, that's for sure.

So, free will, independant thought process, TRUE heurestic learning, the ability to create rather than just process thought... all essential ingredients for true life.

Most important of all is that quality which philosophers call the 'point of reference' and religion calls the soul, something that cannot possibly reside inside a droid shell desinged to process combat instructions. Battle droids don;t even come to aniamls. They are just computers.

If it is possible to create life (except in the old fashioned way) min an artificial form, it will far more likely be in the complex robot brains that droids like C3-P0 have

It's because it's dificult to define that there are problems.

So, free will, independant thought process, TRUE heurestic learning, the ability to create rather than just process thought... all essential ingredients for true life.

If I remember correctly C-3PO said that he didn't want to get on a spaceship after the story of R2 in TPM, he LEARNT that it isn't safe and after 3PO was in pieces in Cloud City, R2 recreated him.
You can't speak of a free will because droids are slaves they don't have it because they must obey there master (like Darth Vader said in ROTJ)

I wasn't saying tht C3-P0 wasn't sentient. he has an artifical brain that seems to copy sentience, though it is a difficult conceot.

The battle droids, on the other hand, are not alive at all.

Hey, a human can be forced to serve someone, it doesn't mean he is not alive. Free Will isn;t about always being able to do what you want, it;cs a concept that embodies far more than that. It's about controlling what you do moment to moment, rather than having what you do moment to moment ordained by something else.

I just took 3PO as an excample,
I don't tink you got my point: some droids (not the 'gonkgonk' ones) resemble ALOT to humans, so if you kill a droid, with the resembling of a human, you are more affective to kill a human.
You should feel remorse because you killed a living thing that can moves and speek. I don't say you should have a nice funeral and things like that, I just want to say that you should feel remorse for that.
If it happend for defence, well, you were quicker 🙂 but you still killed something that RESEMBLES like a human being.

And again, you are putting form over substance. The droids are not living. Jedi have their heads screwed on tight; they know what is and isn't sentient and know they need feel no more sorry for a battle droid than for a toaster, and this does not affect their attitude to livjng things in any way.

I want to excuse myself if I had everyone fooled to believe that I said that they are truly humanoid with the things Ush describes.
I just want to say that they look like humans, and because they look-like you should also consider that you are now close to killing a human. I mean that this will bring you closer to the Dark Side. That was my whole point and not that robots are humans

I appreciate what you say, Yerssot, but I still think the Jedi have such a firm view of what is and isn't right that there need be no question of this problem. It won;t rbing them even vaguely closer to the Dark Side because their ability to destroy a non-living piece of hardware, no matter how living it SEEMS, will have no bearing on their preparedness to extinguish sentient life.

You have something read wrong in my replay, or I typed it wrong:
Destroying a droid, ie battledroid or a 3PO-unit; wich resembles like a human-being, can bring you closer to killing a human being, and killing a human being will bring you closer to the Dark Side. So you have to look at it as the start of the downfall.

I haveb;t mis-read it. I fundamnetally disagree with your assertion that killing a droid will bring you anywhere closer to killing real human, just because a droid resembles a humanoid. It strikes me as a flawed assertion.

Well after you get up from the fall 😉 , read my answer:
If you kill something that resembles a humanbeing, and you have to agree that the didn't killed 1, you are more likely being able to kill a human, what I mean with this is that your 'chances' to do this grows, it doens't mean that when OB1 sees a Neimodian he will kill it because it looks like a battledroid.
I still think that you should be remorsfull for killing a droid, because of the reason above.
When you kill them, for defence only, you can't say you are bad, because it was eiter him or you, which makes the 'chances' not to raise because there was no choice.

PS: What the heck are the Hyperspace Wars?

No, I do not think your chance to kill humans increases if you kill non-sentient but humanoid droids. Not at all, not an inch, and DEFINITELY not for a Jedi.

The Hyperspace Wars are an EU thing that saw the founding of the Republic, I think...

I heard the Hyperspace wars had a duration of 30 years and that QGJ and a guy from the Council fought in it.

I don't understand you, Ush!
You kill something very close to a human, more than once, and you are still not a tiny little bit influenced to the more 'heavy' work? By this I mean that you actually kill a guy,
if you killed something ressembelings a guy, you will feel the same thing when you fight a guy

No, I don;t think I would, and I am CERTAIN that a Jedi wouldn't, because they have a clear idea about what is and isn't.

And you are certain because of the western-thing?
I don't find that a good resource, GL can still change his thoughts

Well, the Western thing simply states that the good guys are good guys, the bad guys are bad and there is no grey area in-between (the sole exception being the main plot of the film, in the form of the Skywalkers).

So while the Western thingn(BTW, those quotes I gave you about the Western thing are only two years old so he hasn't changed his mind) would preclude the Jedi doing anything questionablel, I think I just disagree with your idea on fundamental grounds. I do not agree that destroying facsimiles of life (so long as you are aware they are facsimiles) makes you more likely to destroy real life.