Proof the Merovingian has Neo

Thats why we both said it!! Since we know what the point of the cookie is, whats the point of the candy? People have already said it looks like Morpheus' trace pill, but is it just truth? Maybe it allows Neo to think more clearly, allowing him to make the right decision.

You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.... Remember, all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...

Neo here to get an Mnm can i get the red one!!! 😂

What’s the point of the candy?
Well. To answer that we should think of any mythology/story/legend/fairy tale references to candy and see what we come up with. The colour (red) I’ve always taken as apple-red, but other ideas are welcome. 🙂

BUt if we were to go with that, then candy would be the temptation, the problem itself. and the pill/candy is given as truth or belief in truth...Maybe the "problem" is "belief", not choice. Maybe, only by putting aside our beliefs, can we learn the truth. "there is no spoon". And we're back to the Zion is a program theory.

After the red pill in M1, Neo realises that the real world is just an illusion.
After the red candy in M2 Neo realises that the prophecy is just an illusion.
There is certainly a case to be made about belief (as in: How do I know the world is real, how do I know the prophecy is real?).
Did Neo act out of belief when he went to rescue Morpheus in M1? The one choice that made him The One?

Omega> I don't think Neo acted out of Belief, rather than "My friend is risking his life for something that isn't true, i have to save him, even if i risk my own". I think it was more along the lines of "a profound attachment to the rest of your species", rather than "Hey, i'm the One".

oh man this movie is goin to be amazing if you see Trinity saving Neo like this. I swear that if Neo dies and Trinity does all that work for nothing... i will be very, very angry.

Hodgie> I still don’t think Neo will die in Revolutions, despite it’s “death” theme. But the One may die. Neo’s “real self” and his “digital self” have been separated now. There’s nothing to say they get together again.

If the spoilers are true, and Trinity dies, I think Neo will not be able to bring her back.

She will be lost to him forever.

AHHH! Stop speaking of spoilers. Although i already heard that one, it makes me want to track you down and hurt you with a sharp stick. I started to read one of those spoilers and now I regret it. Hardcore Matrix Fans should use they're "Noodle" and NOT take the simpletons way out 😠

Yeah, i agree. Spoilers are usually only the authors way of saying this is what i believe, and they are rarely true, and if they are, they are not called spoilers, they are called "My Beliefs"...

Since i believe that Zion is a Program, i do not think that the One has a role in only the Matrix. Therefore, i believe that Neo must attain "One-hood" in the Matrix AND Zion, but he must do it seperately. Meaning, i think Zion-Neo must realize his potential before Matrix-Neo can be saved, and they must unite in order to win.

Interesting, your idea of the Matrix in a Matrix is more plausable then the rest. But, the W. Bros are crafty little devils, and that theory is kind of the easy way out. Not how the "machines" would make it 😉

Originally posted by The Omega
What’s the point of the candy?
Well. To answer that we should think of any mythology/story/legend/fairy tale references to candy and see what we come up with. The colour (red) I’ve always taken as apple-red, but other ideas are welcome. 🙂

i think that Neo didnt really wanna go c the oracle but when he heard she had candy he wanted some so he went to c her anyway!!

Neo here to get some candy can i get the red one!!
(those of u who think i am a fool......its a VERY long story 😂 )

icon> it's funny you say my way is the easy way out, b/c it seems to me that Zion not being a program is easier than for Zion to be a program. Just my opinion, don't everybody yell at me, i know not many people believe what i believe...

"My beliefs do not require them to".

😉 I meant in my opinion it seems like the easy way out. I went with my family to see it the second time, and they all thought of the matrix in a matrix theory, and they ARE simpletons, no way around it 😉 not sayin you are. But, I do agree that Zion is another form of control. I think everyone does on that, no?

I know spoilers are nothing but crap. I still find it fun to read them from time to time.

icon> No, i don't think everyone thinks Zion is a form of control, but many do, it just depends on whether or not they believe the way i do. And i know you weren't implying i'm a simpleton, you didn't have to clarify that, but it's nice that you did. I guess we, and by we i mean everyone, won't agree until after Revolutions comes out, and even then, people won't agree. The Wachowski's have said that it would be hard for anyone to realize all the subtle meanings behind the Matrix, so i know i don't understand everything, but i do know that everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether it is plausible or not, so we can only try to spread the truth...

I think it would be funny if we were to get boxes of Mike and Ikes and go around to people saying, "I'm only offering the truth, nothing more", as we hand them a red one.

i think zion is another form of control, but not another VR - for the simple fact thats loads of us believe it 🙂

Zion is Zion! End of!

Said so by Keanu himself.

It is another form of control and it isn't virtual.