Homeless guy

Im not saying that each was an EXACT replica of the previous, for that is impossible. If i did say it was an EXACT copy, well, i was wrong, so sue me. I agree that Smiths first lines can be interpreted in many different ways, and in fact, i think there are many different interpreteations just here in this forum. Im not exactly sure what the point of this thread was, anymore. Somebody help. oh, yes, the homeless guy. the "Observer", or whatever. I dunno, it seems to me that he has something to do with time, but thats what i thought about the guy at Le Vrai.

Well, have you noticed how many topics have diverged so far from the thread header, that you can’t remember in which thread what is discussed?

I think we were trying to decide if the Observer/Spectator was an exile. Then I listed some programs that I think have survived reloads of the Matrix, e.g. the Keymaker. Then we went on to discussing whether or not the Keymaker died at the end of each run of the Matrix. Which turned to a debate over whether or not each cycle was a copy of the former.
I think… 😄

your guess is as good as mine...

Okay, so if we start here...
Observer=exile
reloads=good
keymaker=not sure if he died every other time, anymore
cycle=not a copy.

Well, have you noticed how many topics have diverged so far from the thread header, that you can’t remember in which thread what is discussed?
Yes, yes i have, and it gets really confusing, although that is the sign of great discussions; they have a mind of their own...

Oh, this is diverging, but it ties in, so im good. How do we know that the Matrix reloads each time? Perhaps, the Matrix continues on down its merry path, oblivious to what is happening in the real world. Perhaps, it is only the Zion construct that changes, therefore, the rogue programs never have to relocate. This idea is easier, just for the reason that, if the Matrix were reloaded each time, then the rogue programs would have to transfer somewhere between Matrixes, and this would allow the Source, agents of the source, etc. to destroy them easier. Well, it makes sense to me, at least...

cain and abel "work for my husband, they do his dirty work. very good, very loyal" "they come from a much older version of the matrix. but like so many back then, they caused more problems than they solved. my husband saved them because theyre notoriously difficult to terminate"

It depends on what we mean by “Reloaded.” I’ve taken the Matrix to reload once every 100 years due to Morpheus’ speech in M2, the prophecy from M1, and Smith and the Architects descriptions of the Matrix
The current Zion has been about for 100 years, so it should be a century since the last anomaly. Smith talks about the Matrix being at “the height of human civilisation”, the Architect about “various grotesqueries.” So I assume the Matrix cycle is the 20th century.
Starting in 1900 and running until December 31st 1999.
If this is the 6th run of the Matrix, or the 6th occurrence of the anomaly, and the Matrix does not reload, then the Matrix goes back to 1400 something. So I think it’s safe to assume the Matrix does indeed reload. Or maybe just parts of it… If the Merovingian is a strong as the Architect, the Mero’s domain could be “immune”?

yeah, i forgot about the fact that the pictures when he was talking about "grotesqueries" had Hitler on them...So, perhaps, yes, certain aspects of the Matrix maybe immune, or the Archie allows the rogue programs to survive (*cough* purpose *cough*).

Welll… Hmmm. I think all the exiles are “doing things they’re not supposed to”, as the Oracles says. They may’ve had a purpose once, but they’re outdated.

I think it is their purpose to stay away from the Source, as they still have something to do, although they need to be free of their original programming in order to complete their purpose. And, although the Oracle tries to help the humans, i think she herself is still controlled, and therefore not everything she says is exactly the truth. I think she may tell as much as she knows, but, like i have said in other places, she is still part of the system of control, therefore does not have as much control as she thinks or may want.

Originally posted by JediHDM
Korri, that was just wrong, even if you dont like Trinity.
Apologize. 😒

i be sorry 🙂

thank you...

that is ok 😊