Still going with Manhunter..........no need at all for a remake.
Red Dragon did not add anything intregal to the story.........Manhunter gave us all the information we needed. Red Dragon did not modernize the story.....update it to fit today's society like alot of movie remakes do. Red Dragon basically just reshot Manhunter scene for scene with A-list actors. No point to it whatsoever.
Originally posted by Evil Dead
Still going with Manhunter..........no need at all for a remake.Red Dragon did not add anything intregal to the story.........Manhunter gave us all the information we needed. Red Dragon did not modernize the story.....update it to fit today's society like alot of movie remakes do. Red Dragon basically just reshot Manhunter scene for scene with A-list actors. No point to it whatsoever.
That's not true.
"Red Dragon" did modernize the story. In the other thread, I griped about how they did absolutely nothing with the fact that the Tooth Fairy obtained Will's home address.
The "Red Dragon" adaptation, that intrigal part of the plot led up to one of the best endings in a movie I have ever seen.
Another part in the ending of "Red Dragon" was Will's exploitation of Dollarhyde's past by using the diary/book, breaking him down psychologically in a last ditch effort to save his family.
In "Manhunter", they came to his house, and he fought back with a SHOTGUN! He's supposed to be a mentally deranged, disturbed, sociopath, but he doesn't follow up on Graham, although he has his address, and just gets taken out at home?
It was called "MANHUNTER". Not "SWAT Team vs deranged psycho". "Manhunter" failed on it's premise that it was 1 man against another. "Red Dragon" delievered that without fail. That form of intimacy is what would have made "Manhunter" make a little more sense. The original didn't exploit the fight between the two, or the real thrill of the hunt.
They did absolutely NOTHING with Dollarhyde's character in "Manhunter". There was no way of telling that he was supposed to be mentally deranged, other than wearing pantyhose over half of his head which made no sense at all.
They did nothing with the mirror shards in "Manhunter", other than supposed 20 second dream sequence.
They didn't show the diary that was used in "Red Dragon".
Dollarhyde seemed more like some gay, bald guy, than someone who was enduring a self metamorphisis into a mythical creature, that could only be carried out by someone like Ralph Fiennes.
I could go on and on as to how much better "Red Dragon" was than "Manhunter". The most evident being the acting.
I think "Silence of the Lambs" came along because it was just as good a book as "Manhunter". Not based on the success of the 1st movie, which I never heard of until last year.
"Manhunter", weither it was the nature of the book, or something that got lost in translation just didn't deliver it's title. It was supposed to be about one man's Cat and Mouse game with a deadly psychopath.
Instead, the only real confrontation between the two was him having the last gunshot at Dollarhyde. That's it. No "payback" for what Lector and Dollarhyde were plotting, no revenge, no visit back to Lector to get down to the bottom of things.
Red Dragon fleshed out the story in a much more interesting way. They used the taunts towards Graham, they let the two throw down, they evolved the Dollarhyde character into the "red Dragon" itself, they made portrayed him as the detatched, scarred guy that he was.
Of course, for 1986, I am sure "Manhunter" was gold, but I feel as if "Red Dragon" beefed up the story, and probably kept truer to the book.
As always, that's just my take.
I love The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But the re-make of the original with Rene' Zellweger and Mathew McOnOhey sucked. It was called Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation" I believe. the acotrs weren't as scared. But the New Re-make is the best horror film ever! Jessica Beil and the others know hot to put on a show! Encore!!
It is actually a bit fuzzy........
There are two true sequels to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. They are The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (which does indeed star Dennis Hopper as Cinemaddiction pointed out) and Leatherface : The Texas Chainsaw Massacre part 3.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre : The Next Generation (4th installment) is sort of a remake but not really. It is more or a reimagining of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre for a new generation. It keeps the same core concepts as the original.......which smells of remake, but so much stuff is completely different....including the characters and many plot devices..............which points to it being not a sequel (it fits in nowhere in a timeline to the other 3 movies).....and not being a remake (since so many things were so different, including the characters).......simple a reimgagining of the original concept.
It's like they made the same movie......two completely different ways......decades apart.