Originally posted by Ushgarak
It is not for the speaker to decide that. I am sorry, this is not open to debate, do not use 'gay' as an insult.
who said i was using it as an insult?
I sure never said that
Anthing else is just assumptions about me, and my use of the word. I don't like when people make assumptions. And since u assume i'm using it in a "deragatory way" that just means that you yourself see it as a deragatory word.
Why should i be threatened for expressing myself? I coul easily be offended by many things posted here. And that's true for many people. Different things offend different people. So why should i be silenced from saying gay when other people aren't silenced from saying things like "u suck" or "your a dumbass" Those are all deragatory comments but people aren't threatened for using those words/phrases.
It is not for YOU to decide whether it is insulting. It is the fact that you are using a term that refers to a legitimate section of society as an insult that means that people may VERY REASONABLY take insult from it. Being an ex-gay and now bisexual myself, I am unlikely to think gay is derogatory in itself, but you ARE using it in a derogatory way, seeing as you are using it as critique, as is obvious to anyone with a brain.
So. I will say this one more time. Do NOT use gay as an insult- which is to say, the way you have been using it. And this is NOT open to debate. Just stop. Period.
As a mod, Ush is trying to keep this place running smoothly. To do that he asks people to listen so there is no discrimination against any culture. The best thing to do is to be mature and just listen to him. Now this isn't an issue of what is said instead it is more about pride and immaturity. The mods keep this place clear for all ages if you don't want to listen then leave.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
h0ck37, I wasn't talking to you. Keep up.113, you were using it as a derogatory term about things. I only need an ounce of common sense to see what you were doing. THings come along, you immedaitely say "that's gay". You will stop doing that. End of story.
You can't tell me how i was using a word. Your not me! I am the only one who knows how i am using a word. And whoever said "common sense" was "right?"
This has nothing to do with "common sense" it has to do with you assuming something about me and telling ME how I use a word.
That's like saying "yeah Ush you basically just said that i suck, and i should die, and that you hate me"
i can't prove that, so i won't assume those things...that simple. and fine, i can cut down or even stop using gay. but the fact is that you can't prove me wrong. That simple
113, if you seriously expect for me to think that you saying one page before that "that argument was kinda gay" was NOT intended as a derogatory statement about that argument- and thus using gay as an insult- then you are the most phenomenal fool. It is obvious to ANYONE. I don't NEED to prove you wrong- it is as obvious as the sky is blue. BBB2 is right- this is definitely about pride and immaturity.
The way you are using it CAN be insulting to gay people, and that is an end of it! Your thoughts behind it are not relevant to that, and as I say, I do not believe you did not mean it as an insult- there is no other way it could be interpreted.
And that is it. Stop now. Do not argue any more about it. At all. Or I will take action. This argument is done.