Could this be a clue to where Neo and Trin are?

😂

Actually the “Trinity takes off her glasses” isn’t without interest.
She’s not really in the habit of DOING that. In M1 she’s glass-less in the very beginning, when she’s hacking. In M2 she’s without shades when she’s hacking.

A hypothesis: We’ve talked about the fact, that Neo’s digital self (mind) is separated from his body, when he touched the Source at the end of M2. What if the REAL Neo is still in some hovercraft somewhere? And Trinity takes her glasses off because she sees a copy of neo, or his digital self. When she knows neo is not jacked in (This is in line with the talk about Smiths ability to copy himself, and that Neo should somehow have a similar ability).
I mean, she does look like she’s seen… a ghost.

Teunis> The speed? 🙂 Ehrm… ?!?

True, trin is always with glasses. Unless she is looking at somebody or something that she dosen't mind looking back at her and seeing her eyes.

Eyes are the window into the soul. She wouldn't just let anybody do that.

Now, to be honest with you Omega, I do not believe that Trin is looking at a "ghost" of Neo at said time in the trailer. Although you do bring up a good explanation of the times that she is glasses-less, and most times are hacking times. BUT, do you wear your glasses will you type on your computer? I only "wear my sunglasses at night".

teehee

would you keep your glasses on to kiss your true love?

Teunis> Actually I AM wearing glasses right now (I'm a contact lens wearer, but took them out because it's late here 😄).

My point is this: Is it conceivable that we’ll see two Neos? The one in the real world, who’s blind-folded, and Neo’s digital self in the Matrix at the same time?

burlyman> Ah, no (Deep romantic sigh).

Omega> Sunglasses pooper!! I suppose it could be conceivable. Just thought of it this way: Neo dosen't need to "Jack" himself into the Matrix manually any more. He can float between the "Real World" and the "Matrix" at will. OR, can even be in both at the same time, as you have stated.

hmmmmm.......Deep in thought.

burlyman> Isn't it funny that your Quicktime has an "Apple" logo on it and you are using a PC.
hahahahahahahaha

Sorry guys, I'm a die-hard Mac Fanatic. Don't hate me cause in Beautiful.

I don't think Neo "floats" between the two, i think he is stuck in both, like Smith. Although i don't know whether that means that Neo has two consciousnesses, or if he controls both at the same time (?).

Teunis> I don’t think so, no. If Neo doesn’t need to “jack in”, then we’re getting into metaphysics so fast the speed of light is broken.
This far everything has had a rational explanation. The prophecy, the powers of the One, Zion. So I don't think The Wachoski-brothers would suddenly go occult on us.

hmmmm....

Can you refresh my memory to let me know how Neo ended out being in both the "real World" and the "Matrix" at the same time. What ideas do we have that lead up to that point?

Teunis> It’s from the “Enter the Matrix” game, when Niobe meets up with the Oracle, who has a new look.

N: Can I ask what happened?
O: The Merovingian warned me, that If I made a certain choice it would cost me. He is, among other things, a man of his word.
N: What was the choice?
O: The same one you yourself will have to make: The choice to help Neo or not.
N: Then Neo is still alive?
O: Yes, he touched the source and seperated his mind from his body. Now he lies trapped in a place between your world and ours.
N: Can we free him?
O: Trinity can, but she will have to fight her way through hell to do it.

he isnt trapped til he uses powers in both?

Holy Poopers, have I got to play ETM.

I have a friend who owes me a Playstation. Can you believe it?, he owes me a playstation. As you can see, he has not paid his debt yet. Bummer for me.

All this is almost too much for me. My head is going to explode. Gotta sleep, sleep, snooze, snore, out............... "Neo, is that you. I knew you would save me".......................ahhhhhhh

Nightmares Suck

Burlyman>?? Clarify, please.

Teunis> Sleep?!?!? No. You: get Playstation, Get ETM. It's a blast, with almost an entire hour of extra movie clips. Quite addictive.

We're not really sure. We think that maybe his mind touched the source when he met Archie, and this caused his mind to seperate from his body. This is a possibilty, and can possibly explain how Neo stopped the Sentinels(although i dont believe this, there are those that do). Neo's mind being in the Matrix allows him to stop the Sentinels, then his mind gives up, or something, and he goes into a coma, while his mind is captured in the Matrix (by Mero).

Hey, what if Neo, or at least part of him, was killed when the bomb went off? This is how he is picked up by Mero. However, Neos will did not allow him to die, because he cared so much for Trin, that he could not let her die. So his mind got out, while still being in the Matrix.

There may be more, but i don't think they have been discussed yet, that i know of.

There is so much to these films that the possibilities are endless. I never thought that a movie could be so involved. I'm not on the forums to often, and now I'm stuck here. I need to unplug myself for a bit and think about what I have learned.

Oh, and the nightmare thing was in reference that: Is all I think about lately is Matrix. I'm even trading some crapy action figures to get the Neo Box Set figure. Time to cool down a bit.

Why? There is less than two months to the opening of Matrix revolutions.
Time to get into a Matrix Frenzy! 🙂
(Runs around on the walls)

JediHDM> Hm. I've opened a thread on WHERE exactly Neo is at the end of Reloaded. Let's take your idea over there. The threads here have diverged so much from their original topics I am UTTERLY confused!

Your absolutey right.

I might be trying to take in too much all at once.

Atleast there's somebody that understands. My girlfriend can't figure out why I like Matrix soooo much.

Anyways, that's not for here.

(Falls off the wall. Speaks while lying on floor):
Well, ask her why she isn't into the movies. My friends are divided into three groups: Hates it, doesn't really know, loves it.
The first group USUALLY doesn't understand it.

clarify? ok
i said this in thread 'Poll: The Oracle'
when neo is flying out of the explosion morpheus says 'what is that' and link says 'whatever it is its moving faster than anything ive ever seen before'
when he visited the architect he must have 'touched the source' (the architects crib wasnt), unconciously neo has 'seperated his mind from his body'
we first see this when he tightens his grip when flying really really fast
once jacked out he must have more powers in the real world (help me)
not quite sure why hes in some sort of coma

so he doesnt become trapped until he realises and then uses his power in the real world and it overcomes him
maybe mero then has him in the matrix, and he cannot use his powers in the real world if he is not even concious in the matrix
(excuse me im rambling)