bjn74> but if that pic of Bane/smith is from the REAL world, then yes, they are gonna look different, because (assuming the REAL world is just another program) Neo cant tell Zion is program until he stops the sentinel, meaning the coding is different than Matrix coding. So, yes, they are gonna, by necessity, look different, although why they both glow is the real question...
Originally posted by The Omega
But from these trailers Neo doesn’t seem to get blind until later on in the movie?!?!
The confusion is not complete 😄
I would have to agree.
From the" enemy" tv spot we see Neo and Trinity about to take off to go to 01(Or where ever they are going). At this point Neo can still see. Looking at the trailer it seems that bane was hiding on the ship and, was found my Neo (Or made himself know to Neo). They have a brief conversation. It is at this point that Neo finds out that Bane is really Smith made flesh. Bane and Neo fight, and Neo is blined by bane. Shortly after Neo wins the fight and goes back to sit with Trinity in the cock-pit. I don't know where Neo gets the red blindfold, but he has it on at this point.
Now If you look at the "control" tv spot you will see Neo standing before a huge blue machine (The one that tell Neo to speak). It looks like after the ship crashed (if it crashed) Neo made his way to the machine on his own. I think this trailer contradicts some of the spoilers out there stating that Neo was badly hurt from the crash and was captured by the machines.
If you Notice Neo is standing there in front of the "speak" machine with his red blindfold on. This tells me that he is not jacked into the matrix, like the spoiler would suggest . As I stated before it shows Neo standing, so the spoiler were wrong about Neo getting hurt. For if he was really hurt from the "crash" would he be standing having a conversation with the "speak" machine in the real world? I think not. Plus If he was captured by the machines, wouldn't there be sentinel guards there beside Neo (or somewhere around)? If you look at the "power" tv spot it looks like Neo made it to the "Speak" machine on his own. It shows Neo walking alone towards to Yellow light.
Even thought Neo is blind that does not mean he is helpless. If you look at the "future" tv spot you will see Neo on the ship taking out the sentinels like he did at the end of Reloaded.
IMO I dont think the ship crashed at all. If you look at thet "power" tv spot you will see Trinity closing the hatch of her ship while a sentinel is about to land on her. I think she was hiding from them while Neo was going to the "Speak" machine.
Looking at it from a chronological point of view. Neo and trinity are sitting in the cock-pit having a converstation (when he could see), where Trinity says "it you tell me we have to make it, them well make it".
It seems that they were taking their good ole time in taking off. In other words they were not in a rush. This has to be the begining, because Neo could see.
We all know Neo gets blined by Bane yada yada yada, thats the second part.
They have another conversation while on the way to "where ever they are going". Neo again is talking to Trinity stating that they have to make it there. Imo I think Neo may have stated to her to hide while he goes to 01. He could have stopped the sentinels from attacking the ship, which gave trinity time to land and hide the ship.
After Neo was gone I think she may have left the ship (for what ever reason) and was spotted by the sentinels. Having been seen she had to make a mad dash back to her ship (thats where we see her closing the hatch in the "power" tv spot. If the ship had an EMP, she may have used it, who knows.
*** This whole post in nothing more that simple speculation. ***
I'm really glad these new trailers have come to light, because it puts to rest some of these spoilers out there. Plus it also opens up the ablilty to have a broader conversation about the Matrix, and to see how deep the rabbit hole really goes.
I think i know why smith and seraph glow gold. Or a idea. perhaps what happened to neo and trapped his mind in the matrix happened to seraph, yet he wasn't freed. Maybe he's the 5th One. And since he was flesh first, then changed his code went gold. And thats why smiths is gold, now he has changed and is flesh now. Iunno. I need to expand it, but you get what i mean
Originally posted by icon
Whoa there partner. What if theres a different reason he's wearing his blindfold. Think about it. Why would he cover his eyes when they take off... 😉 think hard people
Why don't you just tell me? 🙂
As for covering his eyes, if you reread my last post. It would seem that Neo was fine before they took off to go to 01 (Or where ever they were going). We are lead to believe that Neo was injured by Bane after their encounter on the ship. If you have information that says other wise, plz share it with the group.
Also the "yada yada yada" was the 2nd part of a short chronological look at what could have happened before, during, and after their trip to 01.
As I said before it is all speculation. None of this is etched in stone. 😉
Are you maybe saying: Because agents can see what we see. They can see through anything still hooked to the matrix. Therefore, Neo still being strongly connected to the Matrix, could get them in trouble because they'd see what he's up to! Hence, Blindfold.
Morpheus: That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around. What do you see? Business people, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy.
and...
Morpheus: Sentient programs. They can move in and out of any software still hard-wired to their system. That means that anyone we haven't unplugged is potentially an agent.
Now I do not say this to suggest that an agent may enter into Neo's body. Heck no. But we all know they can see through the eyes of everyone connected with the system.
Dude I have no idea if that's what you're driving at but I must admit, now that I've said it, it sounds kinda cool! And if you thought of this, then Good thinking! Way to figure something out of nothing.
Wow, I really got on a roll and ran away with that one. I think I'ma take a nap now.
Please let us know what You really thought.
I believe, and im not sure if im the minority, that Bane tries to stab Neo again, and succeeds, which allows the virus in Banes body to travel into Neo. Neo kills the virus, but it blinds him. As for an Agent seeing through Neo's eyes, or anyone elses that is free, that is impossible. Notice they said "hardwired". This is only the people that do not know the truth, and are therefore ignorant in thier little "wombs".
JediHDM> Yeah, I understand what you mean on the hardwire part. What I was implying (and I was Really grasping at straws here) is how Neo is connected with the matrix (regarding the sentinel frying thing in M2). Maybe that connection was two way, and he wasn't hardwired, but remote wired. Wow, this sounds worse and worse the more I explain it. Anyways, that's what I Was saying. I thought that might be what Icon was getting at. :-p