UK or USA

OK, well gunshot wounds apart, I'll still take my chances.

Ya gotta dies sometime right?

DO I look stupid? Of COURSE they don't, but that argument is used to rule availability out of the equation. It does not work in the US, where availability is the only POSSIBLE cause of their obscene rate!

if that is so Ush we have a higher crime rate in Norway.

Well, I can't speak for Norway, but can you point out any causal link for the gun death rate in America? I doubt it. There is only one possible one.

I guess it is the whole point about ease of access. As someone said, Ush I believe, nearly everyone has a gun.
It's just like cars. When there were less cars there were less fatalities by automobile.

Exactly. The ridiculous gun death rate in America is caused mainly by the mass availability of guns. There can be no other explanation.

I'm pretty sure they would ban guns if they could. But they can't as its part of their consitution.

Which made perfect sense at the time, of course. That's the trouble with it all, I suppose...

Oh, I doubt that has ever been in dispute. The pro-gun lobbyists may try and argue that it is but facts are facts.

Indeed. Hence the argument of about guns not killing people, which is fair enough over here where the regulations are strong and the mass element has been removed, simply does not apply to the States where you cannot possibly claim that supply is not affecting the rate.

But if America is the King of democracy then why don't they hold a referendum and decide to change the constitution?

Um... that's technically feasible, but it starts getting very complex very quickly...

Hey, that's politics! 🙄

Sorry, is that banned? There's been enough EU discussion...

No, silly, I mean that's how politics works. You have this wonderful idea of a democracy right up until the point where someone gets worried they're gonna loose out then it all falls apart....

My apologies. You are probably right, of course.

Obviously 😂 🤣 😂

Dumb of me...

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I guess since chaos isn't around, its time for mayhem to step in and drag this off topic. 🤣