I don't particularly care for them..............although my wife loves them and has their cd. Their sound just doesn't appeal to me. Okay.....the digital metal rock sound has all been done before and I like it.......but not with slow whiny vocals over top. It needs to be more upbeat like a song from Filter's "Short Bus" album or Nine Inch Nails' "Pretty Hate Machine" album.....................the sound is decent but the slow drawn out lyrics just turn me off and make me want to go to sleep.