You know what bugs me a little ?

i didnt have a problem with duncan playing the kingpin...he read the comics growing up and i thought he did a descent job of portraying the charactor.....i mean would your rather have an actor portraying the charactor with respect and descentsy...or would you be more satisfying with a white actor totally screwing up that role.....i'll tell ya one thing after seeing george clooney screw up playing batman i'd pick a brother any day over him to play bruce wayne

that reminds me....Christian Bale looks like a *****. he shouldnt be playing Batman

isnt he english? what he soing playing bruce wayne....he should be in the next harry potter movie not the next batman film but he cant possible f*ck up as bad as clooney i dont think thats possible but if he does i'm gonna be pissed! 😠

oh shit they're takin over!!!!...hahahaha...Im a umm...."Mulatto"....so im not really bias to either side really...but i agree with someone's comment about money...yea Halle was casted cuz people r going to watch it...honestly, i think Michelle Pfiefer was perfect as catwaman....especially since i had jus started puberty when that movie came out...regardless....i think its about time u see more minorities in comics...the most popular comics started during a time when u didnt see many brown people in a positive light in any media...look at the JLA....so whatever changes they make in the present...as long as they r not a crucial part of the heroes' history or character...i dont mind....but i dont think that the caucasian ansestory of many characters is very important...for instance, the ancestory of any member of JLA or FF could change...and it would hurt the story of team in a negative...this is just my opinion...dont assume that i think this is fact...its just how i feel, i dont want to offend anyone...but if catwoman is black, i dont see how it affcts the plot of her story...

Well being inbetween Black and White skin wise i think makes me not to bothered about the colour of skin people have, in a movie aswel. I thought that guy in DD was good as Kingpin he had the build and everything. Hale Berry as Catwoman isnt so bad, sure she sucked as Storm but maybe she'll be better as catwoman (is this the one that knows spiderman??) and yea there probably is people out there who could play her better but hey what ya gonna do?
However it would be a little f'd up if someone of different origin from the comic book characters played them. Like a chinese, french or brittish lol.

Do I really need to stress the fact this isn’t a racial thing ? No ? OK, here we go…

I dislike the fact that in movies important characters of comics are turned white or black for stupid reasons like:
- they couldn’t find an actor who’s big enough, so they chose MCD in Daredevil (what a load of crap)
- the producers want to appeal to the black audience. This second reason, I can understand a bit, but I still don’t agree with it.

Let me explain: Kingpin is white, no question about it. He has a very long history, not only in Spider-Man and Daredevil, but also has many guest appearances in lots of other series. He is well known in the Marvel Universe, and has a history of his own. Turning his character for no reason at all ! into a black guy can not be excused. Notice I put the “for no reason at all” in bold, because I find that very important.

I would say 100 % the same if the Falcon was turned into a white dude, or Bishop, or Luke Cage or whoever. You don’t give Superman a long beard, you don’t change Captain America into a woman and you don’t transform Black Panther into a viking. And you do not switch race. Blade is black and he’s fine the way he is, so he stays black. Kingpin and Catwoman are white and they (should) stay white.

I agree it doesn’t affect the story, and it has no influence on their powers or personalities. But it is a matter of respect for the source and the character, nothing more.

Who cares about their race in the original comics, only idiots as far as I’m concerned. Being a Spider-Man fan, it wouldn't bother me one bit if Peter Parker would be black or yellow instead of white, I would like him as much as I do now. But when you translate these comic characters to the big screen, you should at least get their race right.

Only my opinion...

Agreed.

i totally understand your point.

Something I forgot: Halle Berry is a good actress (I'm one of the few people that actually liked her in X-Men) but something tells me the Catwoman movie will be a disaster.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

at first i wasn't used to a black Nick furry in an avengers book but now i think he is a rock

Originally posted by Maelstrom
at first i wasn't used to a black Nick furry in an avengers book but now i think he is a rock

ya, hes a chevy alright! 😆

yup, no respect at all for the origin of the characters. these comic book characters are things that i grew up with, and i know u all know how disappointing it feels to have an actor who totally doesn't look like them play them. witchblade sucks. the girl who played her part totally doesn't look hot. MCD did a great job as kingpin, but it would really have been better if they found a big white guy for the part, coz that's the kingpin i grew up with. halle berry is a great actess, but honestly she should stay out of the comic book world. that catwoman thing is totally gonna make me crap.

oh, and im brown, so i have nothing against either white or black guys.
hell, if they made blade white i would have totally lost all appetite for comic movies.

I think that theres a difference between turning a character into a woman or making them a viking than them being a different colour in the movies from the comic books. The fact that one or two of u r saying that big guy was good as kingpin but it should have been a white guy makes no sense. He played him well regardless of the colour of his skin. I know it annoys people when they change the colour of people in comic movies but remember most of these comics were made in the days were blacks wernt exactly the most popular of people.
Dont hate me, just my opinion. 😄

--Magee--

Originally posted by Magee
I think that theres a difference between turning a character into a woman or making them a viking than them being a different colour in the movies from the comic books. The fact that one or two of u r saying that big guy was good as kingpin but it should have been a white guy makes no sense. He played him well regardless of the colour of his skin.

If you ask me: I was not that impressed with his performance. He just had to be big, suck on his cigar and look mean. No problem, he can do that all day long. He was "okay", nothing more. But he didn't feel like THE Kingpin, not in my opinion. I'm sure lots of people could have played Kingpin. Be honest, it's not the most difficult role ever.

The switching of the race is one thing, but the fact that it was done without giving one proper reason for doing so, without any explanation apart from "he's big and bald so he must be Kingpin" gets on my nerves.

MCD was better in The Green Mile, which was also a far better film.

I know it annoys people when they change the colour of people in comic movies but remember most of these comics were made in the days were blacks wernt exactly the most popular of people.

Dont hate me, just my opinion. 😄

No worries there, I'm not the hating kind 🙂. You have an interesting point there. If you compare it to the heroes and villains of today, there certainly were not so many colored people in the comic world as nowadays (same for the movie world, the world of literature, science and so on).

So, for the sake of argument, let's assume that Daredevil and Kingpin were created in the nineties => it wouldn't be that far fetched to say these characters could have been black instead of white. I wouldn't mind.

But they aren't black, so according to me, it's best to not switch race. Like I said, it's all a matter of respect for the original comics.

But if somebody has a different view, feel free to share.

ya, i was kinda a wanting to see an actor portray the kingpin as the one i had grown up watching on the spiderman cartoon show that came on saturday mornings......a big white, bald man, with a kind of rich people's accent.

Originally posted by Pablo G
I don't mean to sound racist at all and if you think I am a racist then you are stupid. What bugs me is that characters that were supposed to be white are played by black actors. Bosley, Dr. Dolittle, Jim West, Kingpin, Hondo from Swat, and now Halle plays Catwoman. I have nothing against black people, I have black friends and they agree with me. While these actors play the roles excellently it still bugs me. It would bug me even more if Brad Pitt played Mohammed Ali. And it would probably bug black people as well.

What do you think about this ?

All I got to say is Hollywood is a equal opportunity employer, thats why we are seeing more minorities in the leading and supporting roles. The bottom line is whoever does the best job, gets the job. With that having been said, may the best man or woman win. 🙂

Originally posted by SuperDarryl
All I got to say is Hollywood is a equal opportunity employer, thats why we are seeing more minorities in the leading and supporting roles. The bottom line is whoever does the best job, gets the job. With that having been said, may the best man or woman win. 🙂

No offense, but I hope you're joking, right ? Since when has talent something to do with Hollywood ? And Hollywood being an "equal opportunity employer" ? Yeah right.

Whoever does the best job, gets the job.

This is mostly done by letting famous and popular actors play in big films, not by relying on acting talent.

(Sorry if this is a bit of topic, people.)

who?-kid has a point.

Originally posted by who?-kid
No offense, but I hope you're joking, right ? Since when has talent something to do with Hollywood ? And Hollywood being an "equal opportunity employer" ? Yeah right.

I'm sure you mean that the actor or actress who are the most handsome/popular/famous have the best parts, not the people with the most talent. I happen to know a thing or two about movies, and the most important rule in Tinseltown is the 4m-formula: movies must make money.

This is mostly done by letting famous and popular actors play in big films, not by relying on acting talent.

(Sorry if this is a bit of topic, people.) [/B]

I was speaking about different races playing the roles of super-heros or villans that were originally caucasian. Of course Hollywood is gonna pick the best looking/popular/famous people. But the job is generally going to be givin to whomever is seen to reap the most benefit. Being that benefit meaning profit. Cause thats what Hollywood is all about right? MONEY!

OK.

So we agree (sort of) 😉.