"Either Must Die in the Hands of the Other". The Lost Prophecy

Here's the deal...the prophecy says "Neither can live while the other survives". That DOESN'T MEAN they are both going to die. It means one of them will be dead in the end. I don't believe it will be Harry dying when all is said and done because we can't have Voldemort in power again. However, Harry may die in the end only if somebody steps up and kills Voldemort afterward. I believe Snape may end up being the one to kill Voldemort because J.K. is building up the suspense of the hatred of Snape.
Also, in Order of the Phoenix, Dubledore says that the prophecy is Harry's. How can it be Neville's? Think, people! Oh, and J.K. hasn't even written the 6th book yet, so how can anybody know what the 7th one is or how it is going to end!?!

Originally posted by cheeky munkey
yeah, i get wat your saying, but that doesn't explain the fact that only the ppl who the prophesy was about could pick it up without getting injured, yet harry picked it up wit no problem. also the books are called harry potter so if it turns out to be about Neville, then wouldn't the other books have focused way more on him? just a suggestion....

lol, i've said from the beggining that if it is nevilles prophecy for what ever stupid reason, i will be absolutely gutted! and as u say, it's completely pointless seeing as we've followed harrys life, not nevilles...i don't argue the fact that he might play a more important role in the up-coming books, because he is getting stronger and he's been gradually changing, but i don't think that JK is mad enuf to even think about turnin the table and sayin that the prohecy was nevilles all along!

Originally posted by SAtown_punk
Here's the deal...the prophecy says "Neither can live while the other survives". That DOESN'T MEAN they are both going to die. It means one of them will be dead in the end. I don't believe it will be Harry dying when all is said and done because we can't have Voldemort in power again. However, Harry may die in the end only if somebody steps up and kills Voldemort afterward. I believe Snape may end up being the one to kill Voldemort because J.K. is building up the suspense of the hatred of Snape.
Also, in Order of the Phoenix, Dubledore says that the prophecy is Harry's. How can it be Neville's? Think, people! Oh, and J.K. hasn't even written the 6th book yet, so how can anybody know what the 7th one is or how it is going to end!?!

have you not read the rest of this thread??? that was discussed a long time ago!

hmm, i just had an interesting though...what if, at the end of the sixth book or the beggining of the seventh, dumbledore dies...maybe from natural causes or is killed/murdered...caus the only main thing that is keepin harry from being harmed at the moment is dumbledore as that is the wizard that voldemort fears the most. With dumbledore out of the way, voldemort would have an open field and it would make for a really interesting read, caus then it wudn't be so easy for harry, he wudun't be able to rely on dumbledore showing up at the last minute and saving the day, he'd be practically on his own (apart from his friends of course, but wen it comes to volde, they may not be much help to him!!!)

Originally posted by cheeky munkey
yeah, i get wat your saying, but that doesn't explain the fact that only the ppl who the prophesy was about could pick it up without getting injured, yet harry picked it up wit no problem. also the books are called harry potter so if it turns out to be about Neville, then wouldn't the other books have focused way more on him? just a suggestion....

Originally posted by IBTonks
hmm, i just had an interesting though...what if, at the end of the sixth book or the beggining of the seventh, dumbledore dies...maybe from natural causes or is killed/murdered...caus the only main thing that is keepin harry from being harmed at the moment is dumbledore as that is the wizard that voldemort fears the most. With dumbledore out of the way, voldemort would have an open field and it would make for a really interesting read, caus then it wudn't be so easy for harry, he wudun't be able to rely on dumbledore showing up at the last minute and saving the day, he'd be practically on his own (apart from his friends of course, but wen it comes to volde, they may not be much help to him!!!)

that would make a really interesting seventh book. i agree. because then through the whole book, everyone would constantly be scared, it would be total chaos without dumbledore.

the prophesy was there in harry's name because the ministry put it there i can say it didn't pop up there with harry's name on it, you know what i mean??

Originally posted by FallenForever
that would make a really interesting seventh book. i agree. because then through the whole book, everyone would constantly be scared, it would be total chaos without dumbledore.

Thats exactly it. chaos! lol i was trying to think of that word but cudn't!

and yeah, someone had to put harry's name on the prophecy, it wasn't just automatically his..someone had to "assign" it to him, and that person cud easily have got it wrong. Caus although a lot of ppl argue that it was voldemort that chose to mark harry, no-one else, therefore it must be his prophecy....it still might not be true, as voldemort would have seen harry's name on the prophecy and automatically assumed that it was him, neville wud never have come into the picture, so he didn't choose between them, to voldemort there was only one boy born on that day. So whoever wrote the name on the prophecy cud have got it wrong, voldemort was just led by the name on the jar. Are you with me? it's one thing thinkin it, another thing tryin to write it down to explain it!

First off, I don't think i could handle it if Dumbledore died! like you guys said, it would be complete chaos! So much of Harry's life at Hogwarts has been dependent on Dumbledore, its scary to think of life w/o him!--and in reference to the phophecy, I'm pretty convinced that its gotta be Harry's no matter what, cuz like cheeky munkey said, Harry was able to pick it up, thats huge! and Dumbledore made it very clear in the fifth book that its gotta be harry's.

Also, it says that it wasnt untill after voldemort had attacked harry as a baby that harry was labelled on the prophesy....
the prophesy was about the one who voldemort would mark as his equal, and its harry he's been after isnt it?!
about dumbledore dying.... nooooo!!!... harry would be dead in minutes!!!

yeah, i think it would be totally dumb if it wasnt harry's prophecy id be pissed of at rowling

Originally posted by LilyGinnyBlack
I don't think Harry will die... I don't think that Harry will face Voldemort alone either! I think that Harry AND Neville will face Voldemort and win! 😄 I also think that Neville will be better in his school work and spellcasting now that he has more confidence from the DA meetings in OotP and Harry's words and also because now he will have his own wand and not his fathers! 😄

If Harry has someone with him if and when he kills voldemort it will be his friends Ron and Hermione. They help him with everything else so why not help him fight off Lord Voldemort. I agree that Neville will get better in his school work. I dont think that he will help Harry to defeat Lord Voldemort though.

yeah, i think it will be ron and hermione with harry at the end also.

and i really hope either neville or harry will kill lestrange in the next ones. idk which one deserves to kill her more, they should together. I HATE HER!

Originally posted by cheeky munkey
Also, it says that it wasnt untill after voldemort had attacked harry as a baby that harry was labelled on the prophesy....
the prophesy was about the one who voldemort would mark as his equal, and its harry he's been after isnt it?!
about dumbledore dying.... nooooo!!!... harry would be dead in minutes!!!

lol thanx for that one! kinda glad my idea has been shattered caus i agree wiv ythe rest of ya about neville!! argh, can't believe i didn't pick up o that and i just finished readin the 5th book for like the 3rd time! lmao! never mind!

however i do actually kinda hope that dumbledore will die....not caus i want him to caus obviously i don't! but i think it would really have an explosive ending to the book if harry managed to defeat voldemrot once and for all on his own, without dumbledore to back him up...it will show just how strong he really is! When readin the books, i get kinda fustrated wen someone comes in and saves the day caus i almost want harry to proove that he doesn't need help anymore...he needs a chance to show that he really is as great a wizard as everyone thinks he is.

oh and yeah, i didn't even think about lestrange! i think that neville should have the satisfaction of killing her...although i think that harry may get there first

Originally posted by iluvorlando
First off, I don't think i could handle it if Dumbledore died! like you guys said........................ and Dumbledore made it very clear in the fifth book that its gotta be harry's.

well, i know what your saying, and yes Dumbledore does have his flaws, but hes human too, and its only b/c he cares so deeply for harry! But i still think its gotta be harry's...like many other ppl have stated, it wouldn't make much sense since the series is called Harry Potter. (along w/ various other reasons, which have also been previously stated! 🙂)

i reckon itd be really sad if dumbley died... hes like a grandad to harry.... ooh... imagine the twist if he actually turned out to be that... thats why he cares so much ?! .. unlikely but just imagine it

nah, that wud be too much of a copy from star wars!!!! wud be tacky! but maybe there is something more to their relationship that we don't know.