Coldplay

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
I'd think that the fact that they are as good as they are will remain a constant regardless of how big this pool of magificent musicians get. They have the substance to them that I'm sure will only have them standing in the long run and survive petty fan based baseless criticism.

they may well last a long time dependant on the trends of music...but only if they evolve to keep mainstream....which is exactly what they've done...their first album was a huge hit when the acoustic movement that brought about David Gray, Damien Rice and travis and such bands...these artists stuck to that format...and when the trend moved onto bands like Bloc Party, the strokes and other more rythmic and up tempo bands so coldplay followed....with much less talent but a trend driven fan base that will lap it up

hell even U2 deserve more respect cause they've stuck to the same sound and still sold shed loads of albums

i've no doubt that coldplays next album will follow the trend which apprears as if its going to be the likes of the fratellis, the automatic etc...

Originally posted by jaden101
they may well last a long time dependant on the trends of music...but only if they evolve to keep mainstream....which is exactly what they've done...their first album was a huge hit when the acoustic movement that brought about David Gray, Damien Rice and travis and such bands...these artists stuck to that format...and when the trend moved onto bands like Bloc Party, the strokes and other more rythmic and up tempo bands so coldplay followed....with much less talent but a trend driven fan base that will lap it up

hell even U2 deserve more respect cause they've stuck to the same sound and still sold shed loads of albums

i've no doubt that coldplays next album will follow the trend which apprears as if its going to be the likes of the fratellis, the automatic etc...

Since when is expanding out and experimenting with different sounds and styles make something potentially 'bad'? It is uninspiring to stick with onething and the hesitency to branch out doesn't cast people in so much of a favorable light.

Versatility is a key aspect of what makes Coldplay tick. They use it to their advantage.Nothing wrong about using their assets to the best. The fact remainds that they are very good at what they do and deliver to their audiences full satisfaction.

Coldplay, versatile? Are you even trying to be serious?

They've produced the same album three times.

-AC

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
Since when is expanding out and experimenting with different sounds and styles make something potentially 'bad'? It is uninspiring to stick with onething and the hesitency to branch out doesn't cast people in so much of a favorable light.

Versatility is a key aspect of what makes Coldplay tick. They use it to their advantage.Nothing wrong about using their assets to the best. The fact remainds that they are very good at what they do and deliver to their audiences full satisfaction.

versatillity isn't a bad thing and dont think for a second i'm saying it is...one of my favourite artists...Ryan Adams...has experimented with many different genres of music...the difference between him (and i'm sure AC would say Mike Patton as well) is that they dont just release albums with music that's popular at the time..they both have pressed ahead with what they wanted to do at the time regardless of whether its a trend knowing that their talent is enough to make it sell

coldplay are different...they dont set trends...they follow them safe in the knowledge that it'll sell because it's what's marketable rather than it being good

their have been plenty "respected" bands that have also done this...look at the likes of the happy mondays, doves (originally 808 state)...they were all borne from acid house and dance in the 80's and early 90's...they changed their styles when those trends went out of favour

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Coldplay, versatile? Are you even trying to be serious?

They've produced the same album three times.

-AC

with more bells on though...the bigger the budget the more bells you can add to hide your lack of actual musical ability...makes your music appear to have more depth and skill when it acutally doesn't

point in case...i can try and play the blues on my guitar and it'll sound like shit...i put it through a little bit of gain and stick a cry baby wah pedal and it sounds ace...even though it's still in reality total shit

The funniest part is that the song getting the most praise off X & Y is Talk, and the melody line from that is stolen from a Kraftwerk song.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The funniest part is that the song getting the most praise off X & Y is Talk, and the melody line from that is stolen from a Kraftwerk song.

-AC

Sure it is. And and Coldplay dutifully credited Kraftwerk because of that.Praise is been given while acknowledgeing the fact and there's nothing more or less to it. What is amusing is that this is common knowledge among anyone who knows anything about Coldplay and seems to be perfectly accepted too. People like you, however seem to pull at all sorts of baseless threads to criticize and then some more. 😬

It's probably because Coldplay are trite, turgid rubbish, doing nothing to accelerate or better the current state of music.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Coldplay, versatile? Are you even trying to be serious?

They've produced the same album three times.

-AC

It would benefit you if you at least look up that which you seem so intent to argue against, and quite embarassingly baselessly so. Compare Parachutes and X&Y. Their evolution and versatility is evident and so is their signature mellow style. Its perfectly normal for albums no matter how experimental to sound like at least the work of the same band you know. 😉

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's probably because Coldplay are trite, turgid rubbish, doing nothing to accelerate or better the current state of music.

-AC

🙄 That just isn't deserving of a response.

Originally posted by jaden101
versatillity isn't a bad thing and dont think for a second i'm saying it is...one of my favourite artists...Ryan Adams...has experimented with many different genres of music...the difference between him (and i'm sure AC would say Mike Patton as well) is that they dont just release albums with music that's popular at the time..they both have pressed ahead with what they wanted to do at the time regardless of whether its a trend knowing that their talent is enough to make it sell

coldplay are different...they dont set trends...they follow them safe in the knowledge that it'll sell because it's what's marketable rather than it being good

their have been plenty "respected" bands that have also done this...look at the likes of the happy mondays, doves (originally 808 state)...they were all borne from acid house and dance in the 80's and early 90's...they changed their styles when those trends went out of favour

They know their stuff. Know how the music industry works and how to pull strings to ensure success while delivering beautiful music along the way.Why should being smart about their success count against them? LOL.

I have no problem whatsoever with them being marketability smart. More power to them.More beautiful music for me.

If you think for one second that Chris Martin is some corporate mastermind, then you know Coldplay less than you think. He's incredibly stupid, he makes political statements to look cool without knowing what they mean, he disses his own music. Which means it's all done for him, the marketing. In which case, being a corporate whooping post means you're no longer an artist.

Simple rule of life.

-AC

Coldplay are one of those few bands that I absolutely cannot stand. They try too hard to make their music sound epic and deep, but anyone with even the slightest taste in music can see through it.

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
They know their stuff. Know how the music industry works and how to pull strings to ensure success while delivering beautiful music along the way.Why should being smart about their success count against them? LOL.

I have no problem whatsoever with them being marketability smart. More power to them.More beautiful music for me.

but if you had genuine talent then you wouldn't need to change your music deliberately to stay marketable...you would be marketable regardless because people would appreciate your music because of the music and not because it fits in with what the industry is deciding to promote at the time

it's no different from supermarket advertising..they can sell shed loads of whatever they wanted simply by puting it in peoples faces regardless of whether its actually any good or not

There was a time in my life not too long ago when I could show up in a cafe and simply do what I do, make music, learn from performing my music, explore what it means to me, i.e., have fun while I irritate and/or entertain an audience who don't know me or what I am about. In this situation I have that precious and irreplaceable luxury of failure, of risk, of surrender. I worked very hard to get this kind of thing together, this work forum. I loved it and then I missed it when it disappeared. All I am doing is reclaiming it.

JB

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If you think for one second that Chris Martin is some corporate mastermind, then you know Coldplay less than you think. He's incredibly stupid, he makes political statements to look cool without knowing what they mean, he disses his own music. Which means it's all done for him, the marketing. In which case, being a corporate whooping post means you're no longer an artist.

Simple rule of life.

-AC

You amuse me. Its like you are just desperate for every tiny little thing to pull and mock at. Grow up some. Let them be.You don't have to like them, but at least when attempting to put up an arguemnt come up with points more repute worthy than "He disses Bush." 🙄

Nice sig by the way. 😉

Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Coldplay are one of those few bands that I absolutely cannot stand. They try too hard to make their music sound epic and deep, but anyone with even the slightest taste in music can see through it.

Not at all.

I get the sense that you are one of the many who blindingly resort to bashing just to satisfy some imature need inside to lash out at any band favorable to the general public just because you feel this immature need to assert your individuality. I know mentalities like this too well,haha.

Their music is beautiful, and lyrics have substance. 🙂

Originally posted by jaden101
but if you had genuine talent then you wouldn't need to change your music deliberately to stay marketable...you would be marketable regardless because people would appreciate your music because of the music and not because it fits in with what the industry is deciding to promote at the time

it's no different from supermarket advertising..they can sell shed loads of whatever they wanted simply by puting it in peoples faces regardless of whether its actually any good or not

JB

The flaw in your logic is that you seem to put way to much faith in people. Its these people of yours that is the reason Paris' Hilton's butchering of music is at the top of the charts. 😉

People can be incredibly stupid. Why should people with talent rely on the good tastes of people to discover them when they might as well quicken the process by a few smart pulling of corporate strings?

I can barely stand Coldplay, and I honestly don't know why. It's a combination of things, mainly that their music doesn't feel smooth, but rather forced, and that they just seem kind of... fake 😖

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
The flaw in your logic is that you seem to put way to much faith in people. Its these people of yours that is the reason Paris' Hilton's butchering of music is at the top of the charts. 😉

People can be incredibly stupid. Why should people with talent rely on the good tastes of people to discover them when they might as well quicken the process by a few smart pulling of corporate strings?

people can be incredibly stupid...you are correct...

but who is more stupid...the people who like Paris Hiltons music even though they know that its shallow, corporate driven rubbish that requires no intelligence or taste to listen to

or the people who like coldplay...which is also corporate driven music yet somehow think it's deep and meaningful when the fact is that its written purely to follow trends that others have created and make as much money as possible

there is no artistic integrity behind coldplay's music...it's made deliberately to tease money from people who are to lazy to discover good music for themselves

Originally posted by jaden101
there is no artistic integrity behind coldplay's music...it's made deliberately to tease money from people who are to lazy to discover good music for themselves

Have you ever listened to any of their albums all the way through?