Originally posted by vanice
I must join you here. The lyrics are simple in one way but very smart and difficult in another. The message is kinda clear. And that sure can be hard to make. I know a Swedish rapper called Timbuktu who often says that it's the "simple" things that are the hardest. What Bob Marley could say in a few sentences would take several verses for some to say, and yet they would still have said the same thing.and AC you say that it's subjective to say if the music is bad or good. Well in one way yes. But then everything is subjective. I guess you like the fightclub movie (your sig is very very nice indeed), but that's just your opinion right. Then Kid Kurdy has his opinion about Coldplays music and you have yours. None of you are wrong. I love the way politics are slipping trough the songs in a 'intelligent' way. Instead of the usual "I love you" crap, or the punk verson "it's this ****ing governments fault".. they are done in a smart way. (my opinion)
mmhhmm...I'd have to agree. And simplicity is their main strength which doesn't mean that they limit themselves thematically at all. They've touched upon many interesting ideas through their music. And the search to explore themes other than love and experiment is admirable. 🙂
I've rediscovered "Clocks" recently. The epitome of the ultimate Coldplay song that deals with the universal theme of life so simply, sincerely and poignantly.
And by the way, I'm sick of the lets bash the gov. through music matras. Its getting old and cliched. 🙄
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
From the moment Coldplay became popular, there has always been a lot of animosity towards the band.I never understood that. There are hundreds of bands that are much worse than Coldplay, but for some reason, lots of people just can't stand them (or just hate Chris Martin).
Why oh why ?
Because being horrifically uninspiring and mediocre can be as bad as actually being a really bad band. I don't HATE Coldplay, I dislike their music but that's it. There are bands I dislike a lot more, but the thing I dislike about Coldplay is the way their fans act like they are some profound, boundary pushing intelli-rockers.
They're not. If you like them, fine, but let's keep it realistic. They've done three albums, and there isn't an incredible amount of deviance there at all. If you like their first album, you'll like anything they do, because they won't change.
They're simple because they lack the talent to be innovative, not because they've got the idea of "simplicity is best". Like I said, you like what you like, I'm just trying to explain my reasoning.
Originally posted by Punkyhermy
Its getting old and cliched. 🙄
And Coldplay songs aren't? They've resorted to ripping off Kraftwerk, it's downhill from there.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because being horrifically uninspiring and mediocre can be as bad as actually being a really bad band. I don't HATE Coldplay, I dislike their music but that's it. There are bands I dislike a lot more, but the thing I dislike about Coldplay is the way their fans act like they are some profound, boundary pushing intelli-rockers.They're not. If you like them, fine, but let's keep it realistic. They've done three albums, and there isn't an incredible amount of deviance there at all. If you like their first album, you'll like anything they do, because they won't change.
They're simple because they lack the talent to be innovative, not because they've got the idea of "simplicity is best". Like I said, you like what you like, I'm just trying to explain my reasoning.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because being horrifically uninspiring and mediocre can be as bad as actually being a really bad band. I don't HATE Coldplay, I dislike their music but that's it. There are bands I dislike a lot more, but the thing I dislike about Coldplay is the way their fans act like they are some profound, boundary pushing intelli-rockers.
If I had to dislike every band that has fans acting like nuts... there wouldn't be much left.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
So one of the reasons you dislike Coldplay, is because of the fans ?If I had to dislike every band that has fans acting like nuts... there wouldn't be much left.
I worded it wrong, it's obviously not the band's fault, so no. That's just something associated with them that I dislike.
Chris Martin, if anything, shares my opinion in that there's nothing massively smart there.
-AC
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Uh...it doesn't.Actually, there's two lines related to science, but nothing about a scientist. Maybe it should have been called 'A Couple of Lines About Science, But That's About It'.
Uh.. it does. (Ok let's stop that, sorry for beginning 😛)
They don't need to spell out the word "scientist" or "science" for it to be about that. The things they talk about in the second verse are all related to science, and it is he who perform those things, which makes him a "scientist".
At least that's what I think.....
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
What's the big deal ? There are lots of song titles from which the words can't be found in the lyrics (Bohemian Rhapsody, Selling the drama, Bullet with butterfly wings, Superstar, Peace frog and so on...)
I think the point is Floo made a joke and well..it wasn't funny. As usual.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because being horrifically uninspiring and mediocre can be as bad as actually being a really bad band. I don't HATE Coldplay, I dislike their music but that's it. There are bands I dislike a lot more, but the thing I dislike about Coldplay is the way their fans act like they are some profound, boundary pushing intelli-rockers.
I don't really see your way of reasoning. You are free to feel whatever you want about their music. But can't say they are bad because they have their own style. And I am not the biggest Coldplay fan who has ever walked the earth, seems like you have more inside information than I do. But I do have to say that they have their own sound, and that they are pushing boundaries. To me they seem like one of the very few bands who have a message and new sound and still gets accepted by the mainstream ordinance. Of course they pick up things they like from other artists, just like every other band on earth.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
They're not. If you like them, fine, but let's keep it realistic. They've done three albums, and there isn't an incredible amount of deviance there at all. If you like their first album, you'll like anything they do, because they won't change. [/B]
This I don't get. Are you saying that if you keep a sound, then the music is bad. ALL good musicians have a sound. And it's only natural to keep it. Just like Bob Dylan or any other artist they make their music their own way, however they like. It's not mainstream, it's just that many likes it so they play it on the radio. Ad if you can't notice the difference between Parachutes and X&Y, listen again plz. the first one is much more guitar based, the second is more organ based. And Chris Martin says their upcoming album is going to be darker and faster. But still Coldplay. They have a sound of their own and they use it in new ways.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri.
They're simple because they lack the talent to be innovative, not because they've got the idea of "simplicity is best". Like I said, you like what you like, I'm just trying to explain my reasoning [/B]
pardon me, but what are you talking about. The songs are simple to listen to but not to make. As I've tried to say before, it's even harder to make something simple then trying to make it as hard as possible. And not all of the songs are easy to understand. They can often be confusing when you look a little deeper and try to read between the lines. A rush of blood to the head can seem like any ordinary lovesong in the first place but then one starts to wonder.
This I don't get. Are you saying that if you keep a sound, then the music is bad. ALL good musicians have a sound. And it's only natural to keep it. Just like Bob Dylan or any other artist they make their music their own way, however they like. It's not mainstream, it's just that many likes it so they play it on the radio. Ad if you can't notice the difference between Parachutes and X&Y, listen again plz. the first one is much more guitar based, the second is more organ based. And Chris Martin says their upcoming album is going to be darker and faster. But still Coldplay. They have a sound of their own and they use it in new ways.
for a start...Bob Dylan changing his sound was considered one of the most controversial things that ever happened in music...his gig at the royal albert hall is infamous for when his fans turned on him from changing from folk music to rock...the famous "Judas" insult etc
so dont sit there and say artists stick to a sound when you clearly dont know what you're talking about